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Re: arb award (bim)

By: bim24 in IDCC | Recommend this post (0)
Fri, 23 Aug 13 11:47 PM | 244 view(s)
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Rak,

what about audits that yield catch up on past sales?

For instance I recall a big past sales audit that I kept asking IR to disclose who it's from but they never did, even though it was past the 10% threshold... unless that threshold is an annual one (vs quarterly)

here is an example:


Third Quarter 2011 Summary

Revenue in third quarter 2011 totaled $76.5 million, a 17 percent decrease from $91.9 million reported in third quarter 2010. Patent licensing royalties of $75.3 million in third quarter 2011 declined $10.8 million, or 13 percent, from $86.1 million in third quarter 2010. The fixed fee portion of the royalty revenue totaled $33.2 million, a decline of $16.4 million, or 33 percent, over the $49.6 million in third quarter 2010, primarily due to the absence of $14.4 million in royalties from LG Electronics, Inc. ("LG"). Per-unit royalties of $34.2 million in third quarter 2011 declined somewhat from the $35.8 million in third quarter 2010, driven by a decline in royalties associated with customers in Japan offset by growth in customers with exposure to the smartphone market. Past sales of $7.9 million in third quarter 2011 increased from $0.7 million in third quarter 2010 due to an audit resolution with an existing customer in third quarter 2011. Additionally, technology solutions revenue decreased to $1.2 million from $5.8 million in third quarter 2010, primarily due to declines in revenue from agreements that concluded in 2010. In addition, the company continues to defer revenue recognition of disputed royalties pending the outcome of an ongoing arbitration proceeding related to one of the company's technology solutions agreements. As of September 30, 2011, the company has deferred $25.6 million of revenue in connection with this arbitration. Customers that accounted for ten percent or more of the $76.5 million of third quarter 2011 total revenue were Samsung Electronics Company, Ltd. ("Samsung") (34 percent), Research in Motion Limited ("RIM") (13 percent) and HTC Corporation ("HTC") (12 percent).


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Re: arb award (bim)
By: Rakitno
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Fri, 23 Aug 13 11:36 PM
Msg. 46909 of 48237

Bim I agree it sucks with the past earnings misses as a result and the damage done but I personally don't like the traders and alleged longs on the other board more, who routinely trade this stock leading us to rally from lows as opposed to breaking through highs ... anyways ...

... with regards to your comments about finding out who this is ... we will! ... we recently did with Pegatron and that was an amount of only $30 million. Management did not state the name in the original press release (like they also didn't now) but subsequently said so in the 10Q released a day or two later ... when customers earned revenue exceeds the 10% threshold of total revenue they have always disclosed, and I fully expect them to do so in this case when they are forced to in their SEC disclosures ... only in this case it will be two months until that necessary disclosure.

Remember big chunk of cash (prepayments for multiple years received) is not current period revenue earned and management has stated that the 10% of revenue is their disclosure criteria. This amount will exceed that threshold.


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