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Re: Another site closes due to privacy/surveillance

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Tue, 20 Aug 13 8:02 PM | 27 view(s)
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This is the problem. There's a massive domain in which there's a reasonable expectation of privacy and in which there's a perfectly legitimate argument between a government and its people that depends upon it.

A huge chunk of journalism also exists in this area, for instance.

So basically, we have a choice. Between using normal police methods to target suspicious characters and also having attorney-client privilege, a free press etc. And on the other hand, permitting the state its surveillance privileges.

I choose the former. It has its risks. But liberty happens to be something I believe in.




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Another site closes due to privacy/surveillance
By: Cactus Flower
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Tue, 20 Aug 13 7:49 PM
Msg. 14461 of 54959

"In an emotional blog post published after midnight, Pamela Jones, who also is editor of Groklaw, wrote that she is unable to run her website and expect its community to contribute if the U.S. government's spies are looking over her shoulder and reading her correspondence.

"They tell us that if you send or receive an email from outside the US, it will be read," she wrote. "If it's encrypted, they keep it for five years, presumably in the hopes of tech advancing to be able to decrypt it against your will and without your knowledge. Groklaw has readers all over the world. I'm not a political person, by choice, and I must say, researching the latest developments convinced me of one thing -- I am right to avoid it."

Groklaw is just the latest site to shutter over concerns that government surveillance will interfere with its business. Lavabit and Silent Circle, two encrypted email services, closed two weeks ago, afraid that they could no longer protect people's private messages from the wide-reaching National Security Agency's online surveillance programs revealed by Edward Snowden in May. Jones cited the closure of Lavabit, thought to have been Snowden's preferred email, as a motivation behind her decision.

..."Oddly, if everyone did that, leap off the Internet, the world's economy would collapse, I suppose. I can't really hope for that," she said. "But for me, the Internet is over.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/20/groklaw-shut-down_n_3784703.html


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