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Re: the gory truth in the ME

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Basically, in ME politics, there almost always seem to be three players in the mix. An authoritarian military, secular democrats, and the Umma.

If they could find a way to corral the defence and religious elements of the conversation, then the argument gets to be about economics and other matters.

But with obedience to Islam as one factor in every discussion and the opposition of the army to the loss of its status, the whole discussion happens in a strange place from a Western viewpoint. We had our secular enlightenment long ago. Our defence forces accept a role as protectors rather than rulers of the sovereign state. We don't have to deal with these questions. History provided an evolutionary pathway for us.

I think the only way to keep the military folks in their box and the religious folk in their box is to corral them both in an upper house of parliament. By conceding influence and prestige to them without granting them a veto.

But can Egypt reach that sort of accommodative journey's end? I am not sure any of the actors has the nouse to write that kind of constitution.




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Re: the gory truth in the ME
By: DigSpace
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Sat, 17 Aug 13 2:30 AM
Msg. 14439 of 54959

one can participate from a position of considerable strength ..... we have $10 billion, observe these rules, the rest is up to you. All sects are free to compete for access, but they must abide by a few simple rules as required by the US electorate :

abstain from killing your own people
allow assembly, allow press, allow expression

it is a free market approach, nobody is being required to do anything. They choose to do things for access to benefits. But it must be up front, plain, and on the table. They can be socialist, chilean capitalists, anything .... with the requirement that they abstain from killing their own people, allow assembly, allow expression and allow press.


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