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Tue, 13 Aug 13 1:32 AM | 30 view(s)
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Hi dig,

Absolutely.

But for me, the surrounding environment changes the meaning of everything.

I was living in a probable cause universe.

Post-Snowden, I am living in a relevant information one.

In a probable cause universe, so long as I act without suspicion, my digital home is my castle.

In a relevant information universe, government access to the keys kills the reasonable expectation of privacy. Indeed, it tightly attaches the user to the information they are storing or communicating.

Can you write an email to your attorney in the relevant information universe? Can you have a candid discussion with your accountant? Can a challenger expect privacy when trying to replace a political incumbent?

There's a vast and proper frontier of argument between individuals and governments. If the government crosses it with impunity, the system fails.




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Re: Trust and surveillance
By: DigSpace
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Tue, 13 Aug 13 1:13 AM
Msg. 14394 of 54959

alea, I fail to see how a user being able to recover a key to their own device differs from the other things you mentioned in a structural sense.

The structure is the same. Somebody, the user, an agent of a court holding a subpoena, or the NSA waltzing about compelling gross turnover ... all of these are dependent on the exact same truth, the manufacturer can deliver access.

To me that has always plainly been the case (from a device structure perspective). Otherwise the Dell guy could't bail the user out years ago.

So knowledge about the device and its construction are unchanged, you are simply finding issue with how that might be used, but not a new understanding of the device.


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