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Re: state splitting*/re: education

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hi d&o,

it is a residual of the recent financial crisis.

once the economy is fully recovered and there are jobs to be won, fewer folks will need welfare.

the us has a teeny-weeny welfare state compared with most modern economies. per person benefits in the us are relatively tiny. dependency is a miserable option.

but actually, welfare programmes provide a stabiliser for the whole economy during a crisis. they mean that money continues to flow. the farmer who sells cheese doesn't go out of business because people on food stamps get to eat.

so the great thing about welfare programmes is that they provide a safety net for those who have been unlucky and they provide a second-best economic benefit for everyone.

of course, on the margin there are folks who sponge on the system. as with every such system. i'd rather folks moan about that than that children starve because we want to teach their family a lesson.

the lesson we have all learnt. the folks on wall street who visited this crisis on everyone were saved and continue to thrive. our money buys their caviar. and what benefit do they offer the economy?


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Re: state splitting*/re: education
By: Down And Out Man
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Wed, 17 Jul 13 6:51 PM
Msg. 14110 of 54959

 they don't feel that dependancy, they feel it's their entitlement. They are not the least bit embarassed about free meals, free cell phones (that's right-free cell phones), food stamps, medicare, section 8 housing, heat assistance, earned income tax credits, etc. 

A few months ago, we moved 800 miles south and east, to a fairly rural part of Dixie. There's a very large city about an hour's drive from here, but most of the towns in a 70 mile radius are 3,000 to 20,000. Most on the smaller end of that.

The wife's job is on the edge of a town of about 4,000. Both ten miles east and ten miles west are towns of about 5,000. We're only here temporarily, since she's going to retire within two years, and we'll be moving to another state. So, we decided not to consider buying a house we'd have to sell shortly.

"Let's just rent an apartment." All three towns have apartment complexes, there's several of them around. The first one we went to told us they were govt assistance low income housing and we made WAY too much to qualify. And then offered this: "All the apartment complexes in all three towns are for low income govt assistance."

"WHAT?!" Thinking that couldn't possibly be true, we kept looking. It was indeed true.

"Everybody" is on food stamps. And many other financial assistance programs, as you mention.

A gal that reports to my wife just had a granddaughter born to her unmarried daughter that lives with them. Already, some additional govt program (I forget what it's called) has kicked in and she gets "coupons" for free milk, cheese, I don't know what all.)

It's mind boggling. Folks that haven't paid attention, or haven't been around for decades, probably just think this is the norm. And, well, I guess it is now.

Try putting that genie back in the bottle.

D&O


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