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Re: absurd that you can line up people by ethnicity and/or politics

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eg the headline which read "not guilty but not innocent".

Wow, whose headline was that? I hope it was an opinion editorial and not a news article.

I admit to not paying a whole lot of attention to this case, so don't have strong opinions. But what facts I do know, it certainly sounds like Z "stupidly", but legally followed T to see what he was up to. And then got jumped and beaten by T, leading to the tragic results. And the necessary acquittal based on Florida law.

What disturbs me, and maybe it won't come to pass, is the possible second trial on Federal civil rights charges. It's just real hard to spin that any way to avoid the fact that it's "legalized" double jeopardy. The people had their day in court and didn't win. Let the man go try to put his life back together. I doubt he'll be very successful at that.

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Re: absurd that you can line up people by ethnicity and/or politics
By: Cactus Flower
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Mon, 15 Jul 13 7:26 PM
Msg. 14074 of 54959

shocking.

along with the discovery that folks will ignore the evidence in order to adhere to a narrative they wish to believe.

in the z case, the jury of mothers clearly deliberated with greater regard for the law and the evidence than the media. from a legal view, this was a simple case. the unanimity of the jury reflects that fact. the prosecution appealed to the hearts of the jurors because they had no material with which to work. the jury instruction told them to ignore emotional appeals.

from my viewpoint, i thank goodness for wikipedia which actually described the evidence in the z case leaving me to figure the sequence of events. if i was relying on the huffington post, say, i would be clueless.

if ever a person was defamed, z is that person. i think he's going to make hay with the media which keeps on doubling down.

eg the headline which read "not guilty but not innocent". everyone is presumed innocent unless proven guilty. that headline was monstrous. calling such an outfit the media is a travesty.


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