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Re: Racism in the Zimmerman case

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Hi Cactus Flower,

T was talking to his friend, about the basketball game, regular teenage stuff.

I need to hear more evidence.
I've heard (not on the stand) Z's statement to the police doesn't follow the position of how T's body was found.
T didn't have blood on his hands, if he punched Z & broke his nose I would expect blood on T's hand(s).

Instead of a racist bent, the case is more of a vigilante/cowboy theme.

I must say I was moved when the officer said he didn't have time to get the protection kit, & preformed mouth to mouth on Trayvon, to no avail.

I concur, allowing folks to be armed & having 'stand your ground' laws wreaks havoc.




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Re: Racism in the Zimmerman case
By: Cactus Flower
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Fri, 28 Jun 13 5:18 AM
Msg. 13876 of 54959

Hi clo,

I agree re slang. But it seems the prosecution holds Z to a different standard. Indeed, purported racial profiling leading to and explaining a "murder" was the reason for such a public brouhaha. Now that it turns out that M talked the talk and there is no evidence for Z's racism, it seems not to matter so much. So double standards?

I agree that to begin with, Z was following M. I think in the end they may have run into one another by accident as there was clearly a period that M and Z could not see one another.

But for me, this is neither here nor there. One person may follow another he suspects or communicate with a stranger.

There is no pre-emptive motive to kill someone in doing so. Such an interaction does not need to end in someone being shot.

The question is, since we know that Z suffered a battering in a one-sided fight, for which there is considerable evidence, why should he not resort to defending himself in the way that Florida law allows?

I may think the law sucks. I may think it is tragic that this boy died. But this is the trial of Z and his actions. I don't see how a person who conforms with the law is committing a crime.

For me, this is just the kind of terrible outcome that occurs when you permit people to be armed.

This is the same old second amendment causing its problems.


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