Forum Home | Log in | Signup | My Page | Rules | FAQ | Boards | Members | Search
« ALEA Home | Email msg. | Reply to msg. | Post new | Board info. Previous | Home | Next

Re: History of fighting 

By: joe-taylor in ALEA | Recommend this post (1)
Wed, 05 Jun 13 10:14 PM | 35 view(s)
Boardmark this board | The Trust Matrix 		Msg. 13568 of 54959
(This msg. is a reply to 13567 by Cactus Flower)
Jump:
Jump to board:
Jump to msg. #

CF,


Zimmerman was stalking a minor! There is very little more to it than that. He was told to break off the stalking by 911 and he did not do so. He began to follow Martin in his car and then left the car to continue on foot. Martin is dead so we have no one to hear from other than Zimmerman and we have no idea what he said that might have provoked Martin. Zimmerman was bold because he knew that he had a gun and that he could use it any time that he so chose. In addition, there was no reason for Zimmerman to shoot Martin in the chest unless he decided that he wanted to kill Martin. This was no accidental encounter between Zimmerman and Martin. Zimmerman set up the whole thing by his actions and testosterone has no bearing on any of it. The salient fact is that Martin had been minding his own business until Zimmrman provoked him because of his prejudgement of Martin wearing a hoodie. In addition, when you act like the law, you are held accountable as the law would be held accountable. With an armed police officer shooting and killing an unarmed person, you are always going to have problems. The police always try to have a recording of what they do in the line of duty to protect themselves from accusations. Zimmerman had none of that so he had left himself open for whatever comes his way. If Zimmerman had been acting as a visably armed and badged police officer, Martin might have simply answered his questions and went on his way. Zimmerman was a neighborhood WATCH leader and it is what it says. Watch only and do not become involved. Zimmerman is trying to have it both ways. He wants to be able to do what police would do and have the protections of a civilian when it does not go his way. Won't work!


Regards,


Joe


To say that "God exists" is the greatest understatement ever made across space and time.


 - - - - -
View Replies (1) »



» You can also:
- - - - -
The above is a reply to the following message:
Re: History of fighting
By: Cactus Flower in ALEA
Wed, 05 Jun 13 8:33 PM 		Msg. 13567 of 54959

Hi clo,

But you choose to ignore the salient fact.

Martin was beating Zimmerman up. We know Martin had no fight injury other than one consistent with punching someone. We know Zimmerman had a beaten face and abrasions on his head.

Zimmerman does not appear to have been a bully. He doesn't seem to have hit Martin at all, and yet he was clearly struck.

A big, tough 17 year-old was beating up a short, fat, scared Latino adult. The Latino, who was underneath the teen, called for help repeatedly. None arrived. The Latino had a gun and seems to have used it finally to defend himself.

I don't think he should be on trial.

"Zimmerman was told NOT to pursue, he continued, armed & dangerous." This is a remarkably tendentious description. I see no evidence that Zimmerman was pursuing Martin. Both accounts seem to suggest the encounter was accidental. Zimmerman was permitted to carry a gun and used it during a fight he was losing badly and during which he sustained genuine injuries. It looks like a clear case of self-defence. The press narrative looks trumped up and partisan to me.

« ALEA Home | Email msg. | Reply to msg. | Post new | Board info. Previous | Home | Next