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Hi Cactus Flower,

Martin was 17, often testosterone abounds without maturity. Unfortunately, not unusual for teens to push the envelope & try drugs & alcohol & fight.

I have a problem with 'guns,' yet many act as if its their 'god given right' including teenagers.

For me, the bottom line, Martin belonged in the area, visiting family, he was UNarmed, not doing anything criminal at the time.
Zimmerman was told NOT to pursue, he continued, armed & dangerous.
Martin is dead, dead men can't defend themselves, neither can those unarmed when stalked by an armed man.

I think finding an unbiased jury will be very difficult.
Zimmermen deserves a fair trial, and he definitely deserves being on trial!




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Re: History of fighting
By: Cactus Flower
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Wed, 05 Jun 13 7:04 PM
Msg. 13564 of 54959

Hi clo,

Your post is about his friends.

I am referring to texts taken from his cell phone which are not admissible. But they suggest to me that this boy was no angel. Drugs, expulsion from school, guns, kicked out of his home by his mother etc.

The original press story was extremely misleading. It gave a sense of the defendant as a racist bully who killed a terrified, fleeing kid. The photos offered up were of an innocent-looking twelve year old Martin and a fat and thuggish-looking Zimmerman. And so nice folks who respond to those memes and those picture stories were manouevred towards outrage - in the way the media thrives on. To put it cynically, outrage sells ads.

But I see no evidence of racism (this sense was created by the networks) or of bullying (who was injured during the fight?). Zimmerman carried a weapon which he is permitted to do. The narrative that each side has presented seems to suggest that each person was surprised to run into the other having been out of sight of one another at some point. Zimmerman turns out to have looked like a pretty normal adult. Martin appears to have been a strapping teenager with a fairly tough-looking demeanour (childish innocence having passed).

I have a problem with guns because these kinds of events will happen with the law as it stands. That doesn't mean that the person who is shot is always the innocent party.

Sounds to me like there was a testosterone-fueled confrontation that ended in a fight and the use of a gun by the person who was having his head smashed.

"Slain Florida teen Trayvon Martin's cellphone texts and photos show him chatting with friends about marijuana, fighting and guns, new potential evidence shows."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-texts-reference-guns-fighting-pot-article-1.1353832#ixzz2VLpneQWJ


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