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By: rwk in ALEA | Recommend this post (1)
Wed, 20 Mar 13 5:39 AM | 76 view(s)
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It is not clear what receivable was factored. You could be right, but there is conflicting evidence.

What we do know is that $1.8 million was factored at a total interest cost of $123,000 at a rate of 1.2% per month. On the $1.5 million lent, the interest cost covers a little more than 6 months. Since the BASF receivable was for $1.7 million for a little less than 2 months, it does not seem to fit the description of the transaction. Also, note that Safend sales were in $1.7 million and spread over more clients and time. It could be that Safend was the source of the factored deals.

Also, in factoring, TRE receives the money directly from the client through a agreed upon contract. This reduces the credit risk of the transaction. But the report says that Wave received the cash from the client, indicating that this may not have been factored.

Finally, the report says that year end cash does not reflect the receipt of the $1.7 million. If that receivable had been factored, the statement would have spoken about balance sheet debt obligations, not the cash account.

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By: Cactus Flower
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Wed, 20 Mar 13 3:32 AM
Msg. 12959 of 54959

"yes on cash they ended with 2.1m, are getting 1.7m, and PPed 1m for 4.8 to burn. Looking at 7m in billings for Q1(est) and expenses at about 11m (est) and it seems they may end the Q with about 3m (accounting for some non-cash exp). All give or take a million."

dig, they don't get the cash twice over. most of the 1.7m will be going back to the bank that leant them the money in q4 against the invoice.

i suspect they'll have something much closer to zero in the bank account right now. hence the desperate financing deal.

you're going to sleep at a bad time!


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