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Re: Never give up...................

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hi doma,

"All medicine is a Placebo"

No. This is incorrect. They test new medicines against the placebo effect. Only those medicines which exceed the effect of placebos in the double-blind trial end up at the chemist/pharmacy.

That isn't to say drugs are 100% effective. Their effectiveness depends upon the environment they enter. Apparently, genetic differences and perhaps the composition of the bacteria inhabiting your body make a difference to efficacy.

"......that's why the antibiotics are no longer working!!"

I'll go with the standard explanation. Bacteria evolve. The ones that survive antibiotics are the ones that thrive.


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Re: Never give up...................
By: faul
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Tue, 12 Mar 13 5:59 PM
Msg. 12827 of 54959

Hi Alea.....

In an objective reality the Placebo and Nocebo
effects simply would not exist.

For some reason,i cannot remember when,i
had the belief that sleeping pills don't effect
me............on say 8 or 9 occassions i have
wanted to take one or two....no matter
which or what brand i took it had no effect.

I was going to take a 20 hr flight so asked the
doctor for the strongest sleeping tablet he
could prescribe....he told me only ever to
take one,they were very strong!As i sat in
business class for the trip(now i had a bed
as well)i took the pill and awaited the effect!

An hour later i popped down the second pill,
30 minutes later the third.....there i was
3 pills later wide awake in my bed envious
of every other soul asleep....i didn't get
any sleep the whole flight(as normal).

There is Nothing strange about me,nothing
special,apart from a Belief that sleeping
pills don't effect me........My Belief effects
my reality,regardless of the medicine i take...this Cannot happen in an Objective Reality!

All medicine is a Placebo......that's why the
antibiotics are no longer working!!


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