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Re: Never give up...................

By: faul in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Tue, 12 Mar 13 5:59 PM | 73 view(s)
Boardmark this board | The Trust Matrix 		Msg. 12827 of 54959
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Hi Alea.....

In an objective reality the Placebo and Nocebo
effects simply would not exist.

For some reason,i cannot remember when,i
had the belief that sleeping pills don't effect
me............on say 8 or 9 occassions i have
wanted to take one or two....no matter
which or what brand i took it had no effect.

I was going to take a 20 hr flight so asked the
doctor for the strongest sleeping tablet he
could prescribe....he told me only ever to
take one,they were very strong!As i sat in
business class for the trip(now i had a bed
as well)i took the pill and awaited the effect!

An hour later i popped down the second pill,
30 minutes later the third.....there i was
3 pills later wide awake in my bed envious
of every other soul asleep....i didn't get
any sleep the whole flight(as normal).

There is Nothing strange about me,nothing
special,apart from a Belief that sleeping
pills don't effect me........My Belief effects
my reality,regardless of the medicine i take...this Cannot happen in an Objective Reality!

All medicine is a Placebo......that's why the
antibiotics are no longer working!!


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Re: Never give up...................
By: Cactus Flower in ALEA
Tue, 12 Mar 13 5:33 PM 		Msg. 12826 of 54959

hi doma,

yes. i think modern medicine is excellent. but in 100 years hopefully it will be better.

i don't doubt the existence of self-healing. first, we have our immune systems. then, the power of our minds generates a placebo effect. third, we can do things to improve our condition (diet, exercise etc). medical cures must create results which exceed the placebo threshold and which do not derive from actions of the immune system or exercise. so recovery is a layered thing. medicine plays its role.

but for sure, i believe what i believe based on processes which seem substantial to me. a cool story with an explanation that makes sense in those terms is not going to challenge the architecture of my belief.

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