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Re: Tuesday ramblings--The days of our lives!

By: joe-taylor in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Wed, 27 Feb 13 3:38 PM | 93 view(s)
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CF,

Before we begin, we do have a great deal of respect for you and what you think and we value deeply your intelligence and your opinions.

The Zimmerman's brother statement had to be a relay from Zimmerman himself because Zimmermans brother was not there.

We have heard the recording featuring the coon statement on media several times. It is real!

Most of what is being read is either directly or indorectly coming from Zimmerman because, other than 911 calls, he was the only one there. We doubt that he is going to admit to racism, particularly in light of the fact that his father is a judge in one of the east coast states and was available to give advice via telephone.

We do not contest the facts that Zimmerman was bloody and was losing the fight.

Unless the seventeen calls for help were all recorded on 911 tapes we see no way that anyone could have counted them. We doubt that they were simply because it was the calls for help that triggered the 911 calls.

We do not contest what Martin's parents said after the death.

We had not heard the part about the animal control officer and what he said. However, in a court of law, the prosecution will tear to pieces the idea that an animal control officer could give advice on the carrying of firearms. Did the animal control officer carry any himself?

Although we had not heard about the lie detector test, we are curious how a midsized police department could have this sort of equipment available for immediate use with a trained operator so conveniently available to do the administration. And, also, why they would need to do this sort of test that quickly. These tests can be done at any time and what was the big hurry? We would point out that this police department had been criticized for not responding to 911 calls before which was part of the reason for the neighborhood watch. The town is apparently of some size and the police department is apparently not large enough to properly cover all of the area. It has been said that the police stated that it would be fifteen to thirty minutes before they could get anyone to the scene.

There is a lot of dust stirred in the air surrounding this case and a lot of interesting reporting being done by many. Not all of it may be accurate because the right wing has taken this case up as a cause to advocate for additional gun use and the left has taken it up as a cause for additional gun control, particularly in the area of the stand your ground laws which now exist in twenty six states in the United States. And, also, we need to remember that this is all taking place in the context of a southern town.

Regards,

Joe


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Re: Tuesday ramblings--The days of our lives!
By: Cactus Flower
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Wed, 27 Feb 13 4:06 AM
Msg. 12714 of 54959

Hi jt,

the windows reference comes from zimmerman's brother. i believe i have represented him accurately.

coon was the invention of cnn. turned out to be punks.

there's absolutely zero evidence of racism, as far as i have read.

after the fight, martin only had a laceration under his ring, whereas zimmerman had wounds on his face and the back of his head. there's no doubt that the evidence shows he was losing the fight.

the police confirm zimmerman had grass stains on his back. a witness who viewed the whole thing saw zimmerman on his back getting pummeled and shouting for help. the police concluded he called for help 17 times. immediately following the incident, he was heard saying he called for help and nobody came.

re the calls, martin's father initially said the person crying for help was not his son. martin's mother claims the cries for help are martin's.

zimmerman carried a gun because there had previously been a nasty pitbull in the neighbourhood and an animal control person had recommended a firearm rather than pepper spray.

zimmerman passed a police lie detector test immediately after the incident.


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