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By: barge in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Wed, 27 Feb 13 3:35 AM | 135 view(s)
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Hi Alea
Since this board is mostly about politics and social issues, this post IMO qualifies as relevant.

Here is what Waveduke posted earlier today regarding the Samsung Knox. His reply raised my blood pressure rather precipitously. I doubt anyone else reacted in similar fashion because the two tier system has been so endemic for so many years that no one notices anymore or cares. But I always notice and it always royalty pisses me off.

Waveduke starts out(see below post) with "From my understanding, you are going to have a long wait." My translation: Wave was contacted by a Wavoid regarding Samsung Knox who received a direct reply from Wave which stated that it was not involved.

The anger and frustration is the cryptic quality of the message. Who is the source of this "understanding"? The implication based on reading the Wavoid board for 15 years is that the source is Wave. Or was it? The only ones who would know are those in the for-your-eyes-only loop.

The Samsung Knox is an important issue, I sure would like to know what the heck Wave is saying!

The Wavoids in the for-your-eyes-only loop know what Wave is saying about Samsung Knox. On the other hand, the biggest weakness of this elite group is their ability to understand Wave communiques in their proper context. And the proper context is typically an amalgamation of maybe yes, maybe no, maybe probably, maybe inevitably, but definitely STAY-TUNED!

This is a topic that is never mentioned on the DD board for obvious reasons: It might royally piss off the majority of Wavoids who remain outside the loop. I belong to a 3rd class tier for insisting that the consumer side/Trusted Web Services will jump start the Trusted Computing Revolution. The two links below suggest that consumer lead, and enterprsie/DoD, will follow.

http://nstic.blogs.govdelivery.com/2013/02/26/beyond-user-names-and-passwords-meet-the-nstic-pilots-at-rsa/

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20121001006273/en/Ping-Identity-Teams-Criterion-Systems-NSTIC-Pilot

By: waveduke in WAVX DD | Recommend this post (1)
Tue, 26 Feb 13 4:00 PM | 191 view(s)
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From my understanding, you are going to have a long wait. This is a separate offering and does not utilize a TPM. Again, from my understanding, Wave will have more near-term opportunities in the Windows 8 space, where a TPM is required.


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By: Cactus Flower
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Tue, 26 Feb 13 12:17 PM
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hi barge,

nice attempt, but no cigar. it is your turn to bask, matey.

we're celebrating your contribution, not mine. Very Happy

one additional point. the fact of your independence on its own is worth a great deal. the point isn't always to be right. we are all often wrong. the point is to construct a coherent rationale and then to make the argument for it. which you do. religiously. there are tremendous shafts of insight to be had from almost any kind of idea journey.

doma also shows us the virtue of this every time he posts. i love both to be challenged and just to enjoy someone pursuing the construction of their own architecture. it doesn't matter if i agree with his hypothesis. i have learnt a tremendous amount from reading him while mostly disagreeing.

same time, back in wave world, i enjoy learning from the dig genius, eyeballing tkc's righteous quests, reading new wave's astonishingly diligent research, absorbing expat's wave-related refutations, skimming bluefang's treatises on trust etc.

it's all just a bit of a shame that the subject of everyone's efforts has become a sort of blob of inert jelly!

hope you enjoyed your boat trip.


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