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Re: I gotta give this guy credit for sticking to his guns. But really! Facts?...Common Sense!??? When have either of those made a difference? 

By: bim24 in IDCC | Recommend this post (3)
Fri, 01 Feb 13 8:04 PM | 309 view(s)
Boardmark this board | InterDigital Communications 		Msg. 46466 of 48237
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I have to give it to you to last all these years, and inspiring me along the way.

If you can last a little longer, I suspect we will all be thanking batts, lynn, luckern for their "judicial" decisions over the years to keep idcc at a low price and allow us all to buy in over the years. Hell, we should thank NOK for having some balls to take it to the end and prove out the portfolio.

someone ask Data Rox "the debby downer and advocate of licensing for peanuts to move on with life" if the company has ever negotiated "frandly rates" in the past with the benefit of court tested patent claims in hand before?

then ask those holdout companies the same question along with "do you think you can stand pat and litigate and lose and expect the same offer at the end"

I'm more excited about the recent appeals court validated the patents and what it means to future rates. hold on and steady.

bim

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Re: I gotta give this guy credit for sticking to his guns. But really! Facts?...Common Sense!??? When have either of those made a difference?
By: zzfan in IDCC
Fri, 01 Feb 13 7:48 PM 		Msg. 46465 of 48237

Facts and common sense make a big difference, but they do not mean a thing unless the company and its lawyers portray them in the case. Spending the entire opening statement laying out the complete history of the litigation efforts used by pNokio to avoid its obligations as an alleged WILLING licensee would arm the ALJ with every prerequisite needed to justify the issuance of a ban in the initial determination of the investigation. State how much these efforts have cost IDCC. State that despite these actions, IDCC has been willing to negotiate a FRAND rate for 14 years. Staying within the four corners of the patent claims and the products fails to portray the big picture.

Expose the 1999 license with rates to be based on rates with other companies on the team. PNokio's lawyer blurted out in Judge Lynn's court that Ericy was not supposed to settle. OMG, a member of its cabal went outside of the ground rules. Holy shit, what if those fools knuckle under for a 3g rate. We better claw, fight and stall as long as possible on this 2g problem. A few years later, dead and stinking on the verge of an unfavorable ruling by the 2nd Circuit CCA regarding an arbitration award, we better settle and repudiate that hokey 3g license we signed six years ago. But what about willful infringement? No worries, remember that French expert that we hired to advise us in forming UMTS. You know, the guy that came up with the implied license theory. It will work if we are ever sued by these non manufacturers. They will go broke before they get to 3g if our team members will just stick to our agreement to stonewall 3g. Boy, lucky we did that because those idiots at Sony (Ericy) just signed a license. Well we have made it 14 years. The problem is they did not go broke. If we just had not crushed Nortel, these guys were on the ropes. What now, do we try the ITC thing or trick them again with a 3g rate with 4g to be named later. Oh yeah, they just filed one of those 337's on 4g. Ah, have another vodka and we will talk about it after their super bowl. Do you know any of the refs in that game?

MO
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