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Re: Guns and Religion...and cars

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Mon, 28 Jan 13 7:34 PM | 56 view(s)
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Hi D&O,

Where I live, talking on cell phones while driving is banned.

The general principle I follow is this. If something causes harm to others, (or may cause harm to some high level of frequency) it is legitimate to regulate it.

You mention driving. The ability to drive a car in the US is a privilege rather than a right.

The same should be true of guns if people wish to lower the frequency of gun violence.

The US has the highest population of gun owners in the world. It has gun violence rates consistent with countries in which the rule of law is tenuous. These two things are clearly connected, even if other factors are also in play.

There is no middle ground. The choice is between continuing with a violent model. Or changing it.

Of course, no one is going to protect American children. Killing ducks is more important.

Not sure where you get the idea that restricting access to guns doesn't work. Look at ANY other industrialised country.


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Re: Guns and Religion...and cars
By: Down And Out Man
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Mon, 28 Jan 13 7:07 PM
Msg. 12545 of 54959

I stay quiet during gun debates. Partly because I am sitting in the middle, and mostly because I honestly don't think I have the first clue what would really work.

Do we need to do a much better job of keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill? Yes. The "sane" but with a calloused attitude toward human life? Absolutely.

Does a "regular" citizen need an assault rifle? Probably not.

But I also think banning them will work about as well as the laws against drugs.

I will continue to avoid certain parts of town whether we do or don't ban assault weapons. Or even all guns.

I will continue to always be aware of my surroundings....and fear that odds are much higher I'll be impacted by a distracted driver than I will an armed intruder.

I'll sit back and let the rest of the folks figure out what to do. I see merit in arguments on both sides.

But I do have one over riding concern...or question. What logic says you can walk into a gun show and buy arms with less "hassle" than from a gun dealer? HUH?

I have many close relatives and friends that hunt. They've got gun cases/safes full of various guns. I have no desire whatsoever to take the life of an animal for "pleasure". So, while I "understand" their sport, I also don't.

But they are all the folks that aren't ever going to go out and do harm to humans with their guns.

The teenager with handgun in his wasteband......now that is one of the scariest things I've ever seen. (Which I have seen, right in my own front street.) I hope they figure out how to put I stop to it. I just wish it was as easy as outlawing them.

D&O


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