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Re: Killing animals for entertainment

By: DigSpace in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Fri, 11 Jan 13 3:03 AM | 66 view(s)
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I used to know these numbers pretty well, but who knows ... in any event, as memory serves gun deaths are suicide>homicide>accident>self-defense, but that the most likely deadly use of a gun in the US was suicide.

for 2012:

In the U.S. for 2010, there were 31,513 deaths from firearms, distributed as follows by mode of death: Suicide 19,308; Homicide 11,015; Accident 600.

http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNSTAT.html

deadly use in self-defense generally runs about 1% of deadly use.

So, mostly, by far, handguns in the US are used for suicide. As memory serves 5-10% of homicide with guns are "justifiable", but those are pretty stale memories.

PS - I'm not pro-gunning this issue - get rid of the bloody things is where I stand, just pointing out that some correlations are a bit murky.


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Re: Killing animals for entertainment
By: Cactus Flower in ALEA
Fri, 11 Jan 13 2:39 AM 		Msg. 12436 of 54959

hi dig,

i agree and also know that death by accident/suicide is a big factor. i agree with the folks who say you cannot stop at restricting guns. the treatment of mental health is clearly an issue. and culture can encourage violence and this also needs to change if you plan to restrain homicide rates.

weapons restrictions will contribute but they are not sufficient to reduce the problem to minimal levels.

one additional parsing of the data.

death by accident is a bit different from death by suicide. i am not sure of the split in that regard. the suicides would probably happen by other means. but the accidents would entirely disappear. so i see accidents as providing another reason to restrict access to guns.

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