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Re: Thursday ramblings--The Constitution!

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Hi Alea.....

Anarchy means "absence of a leader" "without rulers",
why does that automatically mean violence to you?

Does the law require a leader or ruler for it
to operate?

5000 years of leaders and Rulers without violence
is an oxymoron

law and freedom without leaders or rulers may
not be...........



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Re: Thursday ramblings--The Constitution!
By: Cactus Flower
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Mon, 07 Jan 13 7:01 PM
Msg. 12398 of 54959

Hi doma,

I accept the criticism of the development of the law to some extent. But that's why a country needs a constitution which works.

Find the definition of anarchy strange. Anarchy means the lack of rules/a ruler. Combining that notion with the rule of law seems like a nonsense. A society without rules descends into chaos and out of the chaos, despots emerge. Witness places like Congo and Somalia.

To me, the state of liberty is characterised as freedom subject to the rule of law. Violence requires management. Regardless of America's founding documents, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness don't occur as a state of human nature or of nature's law. Indeed, the further we escape from the state of savagery, the less violent we have become. Check out death rates from sporadic violence amongst the Yanomamo, which have been studied for years.

"They killed so many. I was weeping for fear and for pity but there was nothing I could do. They snatched the children from their mothers to kill them, while the others held the mothers tightly by the arms and wrists as they stood up in a line. All the women wept. ... The men began to kill the children; little ones, bigger ones, they killed many of them.”

Anarchy without violence = oxymoron.


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