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Re: Thursday ramblings--The Constitution!

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Hi doma,

I accept the criticism of the development of the law to some extent. But that's why a country needs a constitution which works.

Find the definition of anarchy strange. Anarchy means the lack of rules/a ruler. Combining that notion with the rule of law seems like a nonsense. A society without rules descends into chaos and out of the chaos, despots emerge. Witness places like Congo and Somalia.

To me, the state of liberty is characterised as freedom subject to the rule of law. Violence requires management. Regardless of America's founding documents, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness don't occur as a state of human nature or of nature's law. Indeed, the further we escape from the state of savagery, the less violent we have become. Check out death rates from sporadic violence amongst the Yanomamo, which have been studied for years.

"They killed so many. I was weeping for fear and for pity but there was nothing I could do. They snatched the children from their mothers to kill them, while the others held the mothers tightly by the arms and wrists as they stood up in a line. All the women wept. ... The men began to kill the children; little ones, bigger ones, they killed many of them.”

Anarchy without violence = oxymoron.


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Re: Thursday ramblings--The Constitution!
By: faul
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Mon, 07 Jan 13 12:00 PM
Msg. 12397 of 54959

found these Kant definitions....

A Law And Freedom without Violence (Anarchy)
B Law And Violence without Freedom (Despotism)
C Violence without Freedom And Law (Barbarism)
D Violence with Freedom And Law (Republic

Seems to me your trustworthy and even-handed
administration of the law also looks good on
paper but fails universally in experience....

As power corrupts and absolute power corrupts
absolutely.....

What are the people to do when all those that
hold office,that hold the power are corrupt?


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