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Your assertions may be correct, but FWIW the Atlantic Council, Chaired by Chuck Hagel had this to say in March 2012:

http://www.acus.org/files/publication_pdfs/403/031912_ACUS_IranInternal.PDF

• Provide free satellite access to the Internet for the
Iranian population.
• Give more training to civil society actors through
web-based programs.
• Increase access for Iranian students to education in
the United States.
• Urge Iranian exiles to work together to try to influence
developments in Iran rather than wasting their energies
attacking each other.
• Negotiate seriously with the Iranian government over the
nuclear question so that the onus for sanctions falls
more on the regime than on the international community.
• Raise awareness of human rights abuses and seek to
shame Iran for its wanton arrests and high rate of
executions.
• Stop threatening to attack Iran, and convince Israel that
starting a conflict with Iran will only push the Islamic
Republic to develop nuclear weapons while destroying
the chances for political reform for another generation.


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Re: Opportunities for Obama
By: joe-taylor
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Fri, 09 Nov 12 12:13 AM
Msg. 11556 of 54959

Dig,

You cannot begin to compare Iran to the old Soviet Union. For one thing, the Soviets already had the bomb! For another, the Soviets had an unworkable economic model. Iran, if it gave up its quest for the bomb, already has a working economic model! That just goes to show you how intent the clerics there are on making sacrifices to get the bomb.

The chief cleric in charge of Iran thought that it was foolhearty for Gadhafi in Libya to give up his quest for the bomb when he did and he said that Iran would not make that mistake. One Iran gets the bomb, the whole negotiation process is no longer important for them. And, that is when the fanaticism comes in. Where other nations just want the prestige and international elevation that the bomb gives them, Iran is crazy enough to use it. It is a race against time as to whether the sanctions will work before Iran gets the bomb. And, the only way that the sanctions will really ever work is if the people in Iran rise up and over throw the regime. Iran as it is constituted today rose out of revolution and, just as other regimes in the middle east go, it must die by the revolution just as well. and, as far as the moderates go in Iran, they have no hand. Their only recourse is a bloody revolt and there are probably enough hard line religious conservatives in the nation to put one down just as they did in 2009.

I am a believer in negotiations as the best thing that diplomacy has to offer. However, you have to have a willing partner to negotiate with and, from our view, we do not have one in Iran. All Iran needs to do is to stop their nuclear program and no further negotiations are really needed. It is as simple as that. What else is there to negotiate about?

IOVHO,

Regards,


Joe


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