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JT,

yes on who is in charge. And, generally over the last 33 years, the moderates gain influence, policies relax, and then the hammer comes down as an excuse of an external threat and so on legitimizes a swing back to the fundoright.

I think there is more value to just being at a table than you are giving credit to. The whole respect/legitimacy thing.

There was a big argument for confrontation with the USSR, and another argument that if we just stay out of war, they will implode. Yes, there was the USbuildup, but it was the engagement that settled matters down (in this case getting Reagan to chill out a touch). Then is was just a matter of staying out of a fight.

The same internals are at work in Iran. Iran internally wants to moderate. I believe engagement strengthens the hand of the moderates. Isolation strengthens the hand of the extremists.


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Re: Opportunities for Obama
By: joe-taylor
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Thu, 08 Nov 12 11:12 PM
Msg. 11553 of 54959

CF,


From our view, Iran only wants to negotiate to try to relieve the pressure, and, to buy more time to complete what they have begun. The vast majority of those living inside of Iran do not support this regime or its ideas but the radicals have been in charge for a long time since they took the embassy and the revolution back in 1979. The clerics keep order by using and controling the religious beliefs of their people and their adherence to those beliefs. We would buy into negotiation if it is contingent on inspection of those nuclear sites. Anything else is pure folly!

Regards,


Joe


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