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Re: tkc, lunches

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Wed, 24 Oct 12 7:38 PM | 52 view(s)
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Hi tkc,

I think you want to be careful of making too many broad assumptions. Some of these assumptions may conceal potential damage to kids who don't get enough to eat.

I don't think you wish to walk away from the problem of children who don't get properly fed. But your broad brush dependency-type approach isn't quite sufficient for the issue, in my view. If it's a choice, which it often is, I'd rather risk an attitude of dependency than have a kid insufficiently fed. And isn't the whole edifice of public education an example of dependency - which many folks rely upon.

Is a culture of dependency such a bad thing in all circumstances? Why don't we call some things public goods? Might lunches for children fall into this category?

I agree that if the state feeds, it must feed healthily.

And I agree that you want to create a culture in which adults feel independent and take responsibility for as much as possible.

I also see a mixed economy of private property and public goods as being the most efficient.

So having kids see the benefit of public goods growing up is not necessarily a bad thing. For school lunches, also think of adult equivalents such as clean air, freeways, police, teachers etc.

The word "dependency" is a kinda demeaning way to dismiss public goods, isn't it?




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Re: tkc, lunches
By: tkc
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Wed, 24 Oct 12 7:07 PM
Msg. 10988 of 54959

Dig, J-T and CF. I'm very aware of all the arguments for school lunch. I favor the program per se. Should it now usurp all parental responsibility 3 meals/day 365? I don't think so. But it's pretty much there in my community and many many others. The kids pay nothing and over time believe they're entitled - that's bad. A large part of the program mission is to provide nutritious meals and be a lab teaching good nutritional habits. Total funding via USDA reimbursements, commodity donation (to support farmers) and paying students is insufficient to support that mission. Too many school districts need to subsidize their NSLPs w/ funds that otherwise would go to instruction. Thus the meals, much too often, are too fatty-too caloric causing generations of obese kids thinking eating that stuff is okay because the schools served it. It's counter productive and adds to current/future health care costs.

My stance is if the gov is going to do it, do it right. I believe it's a well intended program that needs to be modified to meet it's mission in a manner that doesn't produce such unintended consequences. I think it's just one example of liberalism run amuk; that though thought, compromise and management could once again be effective. Moderation. I can't see feeding kids 3 X/day -365 as the federal Gov's job. If States or localities want to and meet quality criteria, fine let them pay for it.


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