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Dig,

I agree, we need to stop 'sanitary killings' with drones.
We need to remember, our behavior has lasting consequences.
case in point:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/iraq-records-huge-rise-in-birth-defects-8210444.html

That said, after 4 years as Sec'y of State, I wonder how this has changed her?
As a woman, she had to be hawkish, McCain's buddy, shots and all ;))
But, she's proven she's tough, she can wear a velvet glove now & still have a spine of steel.

Let's see how this unfolds.




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Clo, on Hillary the Hawk
By: DigSpace
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Tue, 16 Oct 12 3:21 AM
Msg. 10846 of 54959

While I have spoken with considerable admiration to what I consider to be one of the remarkable political humans of the late 20th and early 21st century .... I am not sure I want her as President ... but for the same reasons I'm uncertain about Obama.

On matter of the federalism, I am fine with them, both of them, and see little real difference (nor would I see such a difference were it not that Romney has sworn to be a puppet of freakshow wackos from Georgia).

The both, Obama, Clinton, and the Clinton before, show a level of comfortableness with the deployment of robatic weapons that kills 1, 2, 12, 20 , or 200 without regard to verification or what I consider due process in a a manner that I am not comfortable with.

I prefer restraint. I know all of Obamas drones make a striking argument against the militant right (like no presidential, nor all presidents ever, combined any fashion by any metric, has ever killed as many in such a manner).

Personally I seek a leader to sensibly walk away from the missile at will doctrine.

America cannot continue to be a missile at will country.

I just don't think it is what america stands for.

I know, 911 , yada yada yada .... at some point, I belive America must return to rules, its own rules, and the rules others observe.

I question whether HRC is that conduit.

Its been fun, you know tis whole, fuck em 911 happened so I just shoot missiles where ever I feel like it ... but in the end this cannot be the behavior of an enduring respected superpower.

We must, at that level, stand down. I doubt HRC is that leader.



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