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10844 Re: The upper midwest
   Obama said, 'You're likeable enough Hillary' that would have lost him... 		clo   ALEA   16 Oct 2012
 2:53 AM
10843 Re: The upper midwest
   And could I just add .... uh, with the best decorum I can , t... 		DigSpace   ALEA   16 Oct 2012
 2:41 AM

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Re: The upper midwest

By: DigSpace in ALEA
Tue, 16 Oct 12 2:20 AM
Msg. 10842 of 54959
(This msg. is a reply to 10841 by Cactus Flower)
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You, I am afraid, are perhaps a bit too race neutral, but perhaps I am old and wrong.

I do not think Obama is allowed zingers ... but such coaching is what killed him in the first debate.

FWIW, Obama is a TERRIBLE zinger guy. Perhaps the worst in modern American history.

Just believe me on that, he has no capacity for zingers, no demographic base to leverage a zinger ... it just ain't there ... on this Axelrod and I agree, that Axelrod coached him to pure submission is a separate matter ... that man is not and cannot be the zinger man.

Is that how he beat Hilary ?? ... what was the Hillary killing zinger ..... , nutting?

No. Have Clean message. Say on clean message. Don't leave message. Unfortunately, debate one stole the message.

Axelrod wins by clean message. On message. He is not about putting Obama out there as some sort of Zinger guy. I think folks wildly underestimate the degree with which somebody might vote for that black guy .... unless he gets "uppity" ... HE HAS NO ZINGER LEEWAY.

Facts, yes, zingers ... no.

A young black man in these United States is not allowed to zing, never mind if he happens to be President.

Axelrod is wise, perhaps too wise, but wise.