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Hi csl,

Fun stuff.

But actually, arguing from exaggeration is rarely effective.

If you don't try to understand the actual argument, and oppose it on its own terms, how can you expect to persuade folks who disagree with you?

You argue no choice. clo argues choice up to the legal limit. I argue a gradually evolving spectrum of choices using the evolution from fertilised egg to sentience to viability as my timeline.

No one is arguing for the termination of viable foetuses, let alone babies, infants or adults. So it doesn't really resonate to take things to an extreme neither you, nor clo, nor I support.

But one thing I would note. I don't believe in the state employing capital punishment. Once you get over the legal personhood threshold, the moral and legal position is unambiguous. Thou shalt not kill, except in self-defence.


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Re: catholics*
By: xcslewis
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Tue, 09 Oct 12 6:01 PM
Msg. 10708 of 54959

Since we are suggesting decisions for which we have no understanding or authority, why stop there?

Any child older than 4 still believing in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny ought to be terminated. Since these are nominally religious figures it is most likely these children would be inclined toward fundamental Christianity anyway.

Perhaps that might be a bit harsh so we might grant an exception for those who continue to believe in the Tooth Fairy, like Paul Krugman and Ben Bernanke (not sure on their religious orientations but the tooth fairy thing is a given.)

We could then create jobs by hiring a new army of government employees to interview children and make the termination decisions. Each should have a corner office with a nice view and should be able to retiree on a generous government pension in their 50's.

I am sure they would all work very hard in these jobs doing this worthwhile and valuable work. They should also be paid for not working on all holidays including Christmas Eve and Christmas day.

They should be unionized since we don't want them to be forced to work too hard. No one likes coercion.

Of course union dues would be automatically deducted from their paychecks. Union leaders could then make the decision on which candidates to support.

Its really a good plan and win win for all concerned.


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