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Re: Wednesday ramblings--You can fool some of the people!

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I basically missed the debate, I caught some pieces, and saw Charlie Rose and co later.

From what I gather Obama was ion heroin, and the oft represented refrain was he lost ... because the things Mitt said were contradictory, inconsistent, and not crushed as they should have been.

It is a weird way to couch a victory. Romney won because obama didn't adequately point out that Romney seeks to reduce revenue by $5t, increase spending by several trillion, and reduce the deficit.

I know that whenever my budget gets tight I quit my job and double my spending.

There were some spin folks saying Obama is hampered by a genuine, uh, hatred of Romney, and he was coached to bottle that up ... to the point of impotence?

From the sound bite reruns I saw, Axelrod will shred Mitt's content in the swing states ... at least that is what I would guess.

But alas, the decisive blow I was hoping for clearly did not happen, which migrates it to a closer thingy that will lack some of the mandate qualities I am hoping for.

I expect "arithmetic" to resurface.


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Wednesday ramblings--You can fool some of the people!
By: joe-taylor in ALEA
Thu, 04 Oct 12 4:47 PM 		Msg. 10535 of 54959

CNN always has a group of undecided watching the debate and they were interviewed after the debate.
IT was interesting to note that of the 39 who were polled, eight went over to Romney and eight went over to Obama while the rest stayed on the fence. Obama was speaking to the undecided’s last night and they do not like retorts and personal attacks. Both Romney and Obama's lowest moments were recorded as being when they attempted to level personal attacks on each other. The undecided’s want facts and they are fact based people. And, they also read the newspapers either on line or in print in the days after the debate ends. The fact is that Mitt Romney repudiated almost his entire program last night, particularly in the area of taxes. Romney stated that there would be no five trillion tax break for the rich and that there would be no affect on the deficit by his plans to decrease everybody’s taxes by twenty percent. He also declined to raise revenue by even one dime. Every impartial expert polled states that this is not possible. As Bill Clinton said in his convention speech--its simple arithmetic. If Mitt Romney thinks that he can lie his way to winning a debate he may be sadly mistaken. What looked like a win on first blush may, to these critical undecided’s in the wake of that debate, simply turn, to them, into more pandering to the crowd.

Romney also stated that he had been in business for twenty five years and he had never heard of a business tax deduction for moving a plant overseas. Everybody should know that companies get all sorts of deductions when they move plants anywhere, especially overseas!

The bottom line on all of this is the simple fact that Mitt Romney distorted the truth and told many outright lies to win this debate. But there is a morning after and a campaign still to prosecute and dawn has broken and it is a new day filled with sound bites of a candidate contradicting what he and others have already said in the past. And, we still have this little matter of the forty seven percent! That is not going to go away! The polls may tighten a bit but, in the end, the trajectory of this campaign has not really changed one little bit! Polling after the debate by CNN shows that Barack Obama is still just as well liked personally as he was before the night began. People tend to give the benefit of the doubt to those that they like and, to a large degree, Barack Obama got that benefit last night! As the old saying goes: You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time! And, Mitt Romney did tell many lies to win that debate!!!!!

Romney, with what we saw with his forty seven percent comments, will say what he needs to in order to close the deal. Unfortunately for him, the deal is not closed or anywhere near being close to being closed. All he really did was to resuscitate a dying campaign that is, at this point, really now on life support. What may come out from this debate in the coming days may end up hurting Mitt Romney just as much as what we got to watch in that secretly taped segment featuring the forty seven percent back in May. The very idea that you can give a five trillion dollar tax cut and raise military spending by two trillion dollars over a ten year period without additional revenues and without blowing up the deficit is as another republican George H.W. Bush once said in another presidential campaign many years ago--Voodoo economics!

IOVHO,

Regards,


Joe

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