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Re: Nickel & Dimed................

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If it sounds like I am taking only a monetary side of the grabbers against trhe takers or anything like that ... such is not the case.

I actually firmly believe that most people have values, and for most people their values conflict with successful grabbing, and that our system only rewards grabbing is to me a shame. But non-grabbers are ok with that, if afforded a reasonable opportuniity to exist without grabbing ... a decent wage, access to food and shelter, unfettered access to one's own children, the right to cherish the moment, green trees, autumn leaves, and all that Emerson and Thoreau shit.

But take ... and judge the less than enthusiastic participants, and risk reprisal.

I'm rather confident that were my values to match Mittens, I would be as capable at grabbing shit as he is. Perhaps more so. Indeed I could leverage something he apparently lacks (a soul) but it could well be that the two notions are immiscible.

What is underestimated is how willing and tolerant his perceived "takers" are of inequality and so on, Mittens, his dg on the roof, his few Cadilacs, and so are perfectly acceptable value sets, but thy are not for me and not for most.

Importantly, that value set is found mostly in a very small minority, and as such, that minority should not rule.

It is simply a value set most of us do not share.

that the moral hierarchy has been subverted to recognize accomplishment by grabbing more shit is reprehensible to most. It is not about penalizing or detesting "success" it is about not imposing those morals and values on everybody else, it is that if one wants to play where I live and among the spheres where my children grow, I require rules. Better rules than just grabbing shit.


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Re: Nickel & Dimed................
By: DigSpace
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Tue, 02 Oct 12 11:15 PM
Msg. 10489 of 54959

It is true that I try to implore some folks towards what I feel is moral behavior, and speaks towards their own safety and greed ... that is if they really really want to have lots and lots of stuff on a really big hill, they are going to need to build and maintain their own private military, and one which must observe the rights of my land ... or they can take he cheap way out, and afford themselves a reasonable level of taxation to provide a reasonable safety net.

One can claim a "its mine" high ground based on the notion that they were more adept at acquiring wealth winthin a certain rule-set (a set not set in stone) ...

but tempers do flare, guillotines run amok, and unfortunately after comparatively long periods of comparative civil rest (as opposed to unrest) the grabbers (as opposed to the makers or the takers) occasionally lose sight of their ultimate vulnerability.

Food stamps are cheaper than jails, cheaper than armies, and much much cheaper than the consequence of guillotines.

Folks should be reasonable and observe limits lest their zeal incubate counterzeal.


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