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Part of what I (or you) am (are) likely not getting here is that the US itself was teetering on lawlessness, and the years of violent "shoot em down in the streets" towards the perpetrators of labor union rights e.g. were to follow in the near years following the Senate Isolationist LoN votes to which you assign the blame for the 50-80m deaths from that conflict.

The US was far from a mellow armchair democracy.


To assign a bit, any or all of this to the US Seante dumpin the LoN (while agian very very popular) simply seams to me to smack only of lazy armchair liberalism. Mind you, I am lazy, like armchairs, and am a liberal.

I do not see a full construct on the other side. So, the Senate ratifies the LoN .. and ... uhhh, then the US mobilizes to put troops in Czech?? or what .. I mean where is the magic? The depression was realy bad, probably worst in central europe, and guess what, they started killing people. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Votes in the US senate had little opportunity to amend that.

Fiscal blame? Austerity blame? Dunno, don't do books, seems pretty much everybody's books were pretty bad.




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Re: question to solve with islam
By: DigSpace
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Tue, 02 Oct 12 1:36 AM
Msg. 10475 of 54959

I am familiar with both of the narrative offered in your first to premises, and they may or may not be true, which was the subject f what I was addressing ... whether those premises are true.

Neither you nor I have any idea whether Senate ratification of the League of Nations would have prevented WWII, but certainly there are those that hold to that narrative with the certainly like pure water boils at 100 deg C at sea level and so on.

While it may well be the case that Hitler's ambitions or those susceptible to his rhetoric where paying close attention to the actions of the US Senate on the matter of the League or Nations, or whether upon the development of such an institution they would have suddenly decide not to resolve towards nationalistic militarism, or that should they do that that some sort of internatinal body (LoN) would somehow have more real impact than Chamberlain ....

but yes, I am fully familiar with the convergent doctrinal causal explanation for the 50-80m deaths, and that it can largely be explained by a few votes in the US Senate.


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