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Re: *Re: undoing the new deal and subsequent protections

By: joe-taylor in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Fri, 28 Sep 12 5:48 PM | 44 view(s)
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Everybody is using G.E. as the model for a corporation paying no taxes when there is a good reason why G.E. is currently paying no taxes. Back during the meltdown years of 2008 and 2009 G.E. lost a lot of money on G.E. Capital Credit, their financing arm. So, G.E. is using prior losses to offset current gains until the amount of the losses is exhausted and they will return to paying corporate taxes again. What is interesting is that G.E. spun off G.E. Capital Credit which is now known as Ally Bank. Apparently the way the law is currently written, the losses didn't spin off with Ally, as G.E. has retained them as a carry forward item.

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Re: *Re: undoing the new deal and subsequent protections
By: Cactus Flower
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Thu, 27 Sep 12 9:15 PM
Msg. 10367 of 54959

hi dig,

but they can do this a different way now, by taking profits offshore and shipping dividends to those guys at zero percent tax.

take ge's "taxpayers". ge paid 0% tax. its shareholders avoided income tax rates because they received dividend income. so the us treasury receives a whole lot of nothing on both sides of the transaction.

the wealth is transferred to the individuals involved without ever passing into the tax system.

in my model, if the income goes to an individual, it at least gets taxed one time as it transfers from a to b.

i also think it is harder to hide an individual taxpayer than to make a company disappear offshore.


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