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Re: Poll: Obama opens substantial leads in key swing states

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this is just desperation. when they were doing well, there were no complaints.

but silver has addressed this and it seems mostly to be explicable by polling medium. the republican leaning polls mostly result from calling landlines. no coincidence that older people tend to have landlines and preponderantly vote republican.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/the-statistical-state-of-the-presidential-race/?gwh=85AF5D4AF46293028BE4E83D603298EC

if anything, the issue is with the landline polls.


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Re: Poll: Obama opens substantial leads in key swing states
By: DigSpace
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Wed, 26 Sep 12 6:01 PM
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this sampling narrative that keeps coming is certainly interesting:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/morning-jay-are-polls-tilted-toward-obama_653067.html?page=1

I mean unskewed seems to be completely off its rocker, but the sampling breakdown/assumptionms stuff is curious in any event. I definitely is the component that makes polling a nightmare I imagine.

It would seems the LV measure should simply be generated fresh, and the sampling weights should be determined empirically rather than historically generated.

If one rings enough phones one should have a sample that defines D/R/I split and the enthusiam/LV likelyhood of each component and then sample accordingly.

It seems that a D/R/I weighting is being applied based on previous elections rather than what people say today.

Or not and it just a smoke screen. I can't tell from the articles whether the sample weighting is deliberate up front or simply a consequence of what they found when polling.

But is does look bimodal.

One can find some comfort in the notion that even with the more R weighting(Rassmussen e.g.) both the national and the swings are blue, just that it is much tighter when that sampling method is used.


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