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Re: whatever started the demonstrations in egypt

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yes, the notion that speech lies in a separate sanctified protected box distinct from a box of actual action is a very deliberate carefully nurtured societal notion.

Not all societies have developed such a notion (and some are comparatively hypocritical in their interpretation of it).

An abstraction layer is required to draw this boundary around protected speech. The abstraction layer is learned, that what instinctively appears to be a threat may not necessarily be considered materially so.

Powder-keg stuff when societies that have constructed a speech safe-zone interact with those who have not deliberately done so.

The difference in US society between verbally insulting a person's mother and punching a person in the face is considerable. I do not believe that is uniformly the case around the world.




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Re: whatever started the demonstrations in egypt
By: Cactus Flower
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Fri, 14 Sep 12 7:21 PM
Msg. 10053 of 54959

issue of the film is this -

the notion that freedom of speech has precedence over freedom from speech. this proposition is arguable.

it is a choice to presume the former. not everyone makes this choice.

for instance, the us abridges this choice for certain sorts of speech. it doesn't permit the distribution of pornography about minors. it doesn't permit the distribution of information protected by copyright. the government demands freedom from this kind of speech.

i am not sure there is anything more than a prejudice involved in the question of whether you protect religion using the same principle. some countries seem very sensitive to this question. it isn't their tradition to permit insults to their religion.


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