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Re: sigh... (education)

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It don't follow these matters that closely, but is there an example of a "successful" country without a public education system?

I am unaware of a private school in the US that does not have selective admissions.

Is your argument that were public schools to be eliminated that a private interest would emerge to fill the market niche of those with no money to pay and/or require more resources? Or is this where the voucher steps in?

Just googling I have found a few municipalities and when digging up public cost per student and tuition at private, the numbers are more or less on par.

I was educated in US public schools with peers who attended both public and private school when attending college and didn't see very good evidence and any chasm of differential services or product, certainly not something that could substantiate rhetoric at the level of "masquerade".

Do you have any facts so to speak to back up your assertions or conclusions? ... which are, so far, indistinguishable to me.

Should such prioritization occur at all levels?

Generally (at least for me and many others) those spheres of life where there is a role of government are others areas where there is a clear common interest. Roads, firefighters, some sort of legal system, and (to me) a ubiquitous basic level of education.

In areas where the consequence of the lack of a wall-to-wall system exceed the costs, those are the areas we employ government. So while you say "there is no need for government involvement whatsoever", I am inclined to think that in order to maintain a reasonably productive civil society some form of essentially compulsory, wall-to-wall, available to all system must be in place.

Is your beef just with the US public education system or is it a broadly held opinion, that the UK, Canadian, German, French, Swiss etc .... public education systems are all charades as well? Certainly in those examples government is the principle player.




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Re: sigh...
By: xcslewis
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Mon, 10 Sep 12 11:35 PM
Msg. 09917 of 54959

Hi tkc,

No not saying that at all. I think the public education system is entirely worthless for students, families and teachers. Scraping the entire thing would result in a far superior, private, efficient, cost effective education system in a few years that would be better for all involved. There is no need for government involvement whatsoever.

The public education system is a charade masquerading as an education systme. As it currently exists it is a financially unsustainable, political, employee benefit plan. Education does occur among students in the system but the system contributes little to that process.

The Obama and Emmanuel children are typical of many of our "public servants", Republican and Democrats.

They attempt to bask themselves in the noble glow of "investing" in public education but that system is for everyone else, not for their children.

I am banning myself from the other board as a symbolic protest in support of you, dig and 24601. I don't have much to offer anyway.

By the way I like reps better than the dems. I will hold my nose and do everything I can to defeat Obama but I am not a Romney fan. Gary Johnson stands no chance of winning, so Romney it is for me.


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