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Are the Kochs also philanthropists? I mean beyond their political contributions. Genuine question

David lives back in NY and I don't know a lot about him. Charles and Liz are indeed. They seek, for the most part, to stay out of the limelight and keep much of it quiet. You'll find the Koch name on a few things they donated for (like WSU's Koch Arena), but generally avoid that.

They are multi, multi billionaires living quietly in the same town forever. They haven't built a "shrine for themselves" house and "estate". They largely stay completely out of the news.

It really is an interesting story, the rise of the company in just a few decades into such a massive company, with many tens of billion dollars per year in revs. It may be a hundred billion or more now, I haven't been paying a lot of attention lately. Not to mention it is a private company. Possibly the largest, definitely the second largest.

How often do you see a private company (other than a Goldman Sachs type thing) buy a huge outfit like Georgia Pacific? It's almost mind boggling. Especially considering where they came from just forty years ago.

I am not advocating for them. And I never worked for them. Could have, but declined. I doubt the culture was right for me. I'm too much of a non conformist. But I have very close friends and many acquaintances that have worked for them for decades. They are all decent people. Certainly more productive, contributive members of society than the average Joe. (Oops, I shouldn't have said that!)

For all its warts, and there no doubt are plenty, the outfit does a lot more good than some hedge fund manager in NY extracting a billion a year from the financial markets.

Oh well, back to sleep.

D&O




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Re: the bain way
By: Cactus Flower
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Wed, 18 Jul 12 6:27 PM
Msg. 09032 of 54959

Fair point re Kochs and Soros.

Of course, we both also know that the Kochs and Soros are actually praised or reviled, not for their wealth or the manner in which they made their money, but for the prominence their wealth has given to their political philosophies.

Are the Kochs also philanthropists? I mean beyond their political contributions. Genuine question. For me, it is their philosophy which I find brutal, but I haven't spent any time on their biographies. Nor do I remember commenting upon them as people.

I don't especially make much of Soros' financial career myself, although he has a lot of bottle and his bet against the UK Treasury actually was enormously beneficial to the UK economy: it forced it out of the ERM. This mechanism was the harbinger for euro membership. Not only did the UK's expulsion relieve the tensions that membership of the ERM were causing at the time. But also, the fact the UK wasn't able to stay in the ERM drew attention to the risks of joining the euro. So but for Soros, the UK would likely be up the creek without a currency paddle right now. Someone should give him an honorary knighthood for that alone.


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