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hi jt,

the bankers being an example.

yep. deregulation makes sense for them because they don't bear their own downside risk. tax payers are on the hook for that.

the fact that businesses don't like regulation does not mean it ain't worthwhile.

remembering recent history, there are one or two oil platform workers who might also be content to see government intrusion in profit-driven corporations; and folks who live downwind and downstream of chemical plants.

some folks seem to imagine the profit motive will always generate benefits and nothing else. there are these things called negative externalities.

libertarians like to imagine they don't exist. let the market decide. which is fine if you think you are not vulnerable to the problem.

and it isn't that profits are intrinsically wicked. they also generate wealth. the question is, at what cost to the folks that don't show up in the income statement.

how do you protect those people from harm?

well, you need the polluter to pay the pollution cost, of course. or to be prevented from polluting.

at root, this is also the romney question. here's a guy who made some of his money at the expense of others' misery. due amongst other things to liquidity preference, others were left holding the bag. romney took the swag.

is that kind of person really presidential material? seems to me he may be rich but at best he's amoral at his core.


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Re: Damn right
By: joe-taylor
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Fri, 13 Jul 12 5:49 PM
Msg. 08994 of 54959

Sorry to butt in here!

Some economists believe that a large, diverse economy like the United States can carry lrge amounts of debt over long periods of time. Paul Krugman has stated that it might be more important to stimulate the economy right now than to go into a debt reduction mode. Even Mitt Romney has stated lately that he plans no large reduction in spending in his first year.

As we see it, business is holding off on hiring plans until after the election because they do not have the visibility that they need (or desire). Several CEO's of international corporations based in the United States have stated that if Mitt Romney is not elected and if the current level of regulation continues on unabated, that they will carry out apparently already drafted plans to leave the United States. This is despite what happened back in 2007-08 when the nation and the world almost went into a depression. The real issue, in our opinion, is not debt but regulation. The deregulation began under Ronald Reagan and, other than George H. W. Bush, it has continued unabated until Barack Obama entered the White House. Corporations that are now so diversified throughout the world think that they no longer need as strong az presence in the United States as they have had in the past. They have, since 2009, been forced to live in a regulated and a deregulated world at the same time and they simply prefer a deregulated world, even if that ends up casting the entire world into a depression in which they will have no visibility anywhere at all!!!!!


IOVHO,

Regards,

Joe


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