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By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Wed, 11 Jul 12 4:33 PM | 87 view(s)
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The trouble is, not many people will challenge their own assumptions.

The Republican idea that the poor are pampered by the delicious free lunch of food stamps and Medicaid is - when you think about it - a strange claim.

At best, unemployment benefits are a means for desperate folks to survive. But they hardly compete with a decent job if one is available.

Unfortunately, not everyone has the skills or genius to go off and start their own business, let alone access to the capital required to do so. So they depend upon the existence of employment opportunities.

And during hard times, where are these opportunities? First, we know they are few and far between. Second, we know the folks who have money are hoarding.

So rather than basking in the luxury of unemployment benefits, perhaps the following story is true.

During tough times, a safety net actually helps save decent people and their families from catastrophe. The New Deal was written because the experience of utter misery taught a previous generation that depressions are nasty things, that the burden of individual hardship ends up affecting the whole of society and that it is in everyone's interest to have the bleeding edge of poverty dulled a little.

We have another word for the conditions generated by the sympathy-free, Marie-Antoinette, let-them-and-their-kids-eat-cake version of existence. The word is Dickensian.

Wrapped in wise-sounding phrases about thrift and personal responsibility, and the conceit that the poor are simply lazy, it is so easy not to give a damn. But actually, it is a form of insensitivity and cruelty to want to take away the little protection that is afforded to people who are desperate.

Economically, it is also bad policy.

Please sir, can I have some more?


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Re: Goofy thoughts***
By: Cactus Flower
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Wed, 11 Jul 12 3:15 AM
Msg. 08951 of 54959

But duke,

you are a right winger. The neutral centre is where I am!!

Or maybe it depends upon your perspective. ;-)

at any rate, no dig intended. it was my sense of where you will head once you stop thinking that the poor are addicted to the puny welfare checks they receive; and thus that most poor folks are poor because they don't try; and that welfare and/or distribution are forms of charity rather than enlightened self-interest and a part of the foundation of economic efficiency.

As I said, I think those kinds of things remain the heart of your system and only once you begin to doubt them will you begin to move your politics.

For myself, I learnt a good deal when I discovered that a certain measure of reciprocity and even altruism is actually economically efficient. Cooperation and trust are not the side-show. They are part of the main event. For me, discovering this was the death of the theory that self-interest and greed are the key to a successful society: and I was glad to see it go. What an ugly philosophy it seems once the robe of economic virtue is stripped from it.


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