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Medicare returns 97 cents on the dollar in medical service compared to the private sector at about 84 cents ... and the goal of the private sector, the stated goal (see SEC filings), the rewarded goal (see share price vs percent of dollar to medical service), is to return even less on the dollar in medical service (see medical sector investor analyst opinions).

Private sector medical insurance is a system explicitly designed (again read their SEC filings, analyst opinions etc) to NOT provide medical care.

Who woulda thunk it doesn't do too well at what it is specifically designed to avoid at all costs?? Private enterprise does many things well, chief among them are the things it is trying to do, and in the case of private medical insurance the sated goal is to not pay for care. Again, that is the stated goal.




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By: Cactus Flower
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Mon, 02 Jul 12 5:18 AM
Msg. 08770 of 54959

Hi wavydog,

You do know the US government runs Medicare, right. Have you noticed that few seniors want it replaced?

In the categories in which it operates, the socialised medicine system in the US is relatively popular (with the exception of Cobra) and the coverage includes everyone.

Whereas you seem to believe government is incapable simply because the right presumes it as an article of faith.

My experience is there is no way to argue against someone's embedded dogma. Facts are never important in those circumstances.

Bring evidence and we can chat. But at this point, I've supplied some of it for you (eg the latest comparative global study of the effectiveness of health systems, international Health-GDP statistics, US Healthcare-to-GDP growth etc), which you have avoided by describing my position as partisan - as if the facts can be partisan; and you've brought a dogma to the conversation which conflicts with all of the available evidence.

A dogma's not going to be persuasive unless you can provide an example of a successful and efficient private insurance health system or some kind of evidence of success of the model you believe in. I'll be looking out for it. Believe me, I have looked myself.


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