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Hi wavydog,

You do know the US government runs Medicare, right. Have you noticed that few seniors want it replaced?

In the categories in which it operates, the socialised medicine system in the US is relatively popular (with the exception of Cobra) and the coverage includes everyone.

Whereas you seem to believe government is incapable simply because the right presumes it as an article of faith.

My experience is there is no way to argue against someone's embedded dogma. Facts are never important in those circumstances.

Bring evidence and we can chat. But at this point, I've supplied some of it for you (eg the latest comparative global study of the effectiveness of health systems, international Health-GDP statistics, US Healthcare-to-GDP growth etc), which you have avoided by describing my position as partisan - as if the facts can be partisan; and you've brought a dogma to the conversation which conflicts with all of the available evidence.

A dogma's not going to be persuasive unless you can provide an example of a successful and efficient private insurance health system or some kind of evidence of success of the model you believe in. I'll be looking out for it. Believe me, I have looked myself.


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Re: your ban*
By: wavydog
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Mon, 02 Jul 12 4:45 AM
Msg. 08768 of 54959

I would say that the idea that government (at least our current form of government in our country of over 300 million people)is bound to be worse at running healthcare is a very strong assumption. I would base my assumption on past performance. If there is a false equivalence, it runs the other way. If you look at the "War on Poverty", borrowing your car analogy, it would be like buying a car with no gas tank and putting 20 gallons down the shoot every day and wondering why the car won't start.And then never bothering to find out why it won't start but instead putting more and more gas in it. If you're done with the Arrow book, try some Milton F.


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