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Re: Roberts 2 decades from now

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
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"30 million" uninsured?

"That is not the issue," Sen. Mitch McConnell said. "The question is how to go step by step to improve the American health care system. It is already the finest health care system in the world."

Finest?

Ha ha.

http://www.bmj.com/content/337/bmj.a889

"The United States ranked last across a range of measures of health care in a comparison of 19 industrialised countries, despite spending more than twice as much per person on health as any other of the countries, says a report published last week [in 2008].

The report shows improvements in some areas since the previous rating two years ago but found that other countries had improved more quickly. It analysed 37 measures, including access to care, quality of care, and health outcomes."

As usual, the right wing position is based on theory and not inconvenient truths.


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Re: Roberts 2 decades from now
By: Cactus Flower in ALEA
Sun, 01 Jul 12 5:38 PM 		Msg. 08752 of 54959

Hi wavydog,

How is your incredulity justified?

Here's a chart showing how, on its own, the private sector in the US manages healthcare costs (measured as a share of GDP).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Health_costs_USA_GDP.gif

Here's a chart comparison between the cost of government run or government-private sector mixed systems (basically everyone else) and the current US insurance-run private system as a percentage of GDP:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:International_Comparison_-_Healthcare_spending_as_%25_GDP.png

In the face of this, I find myself astonished at your basic assumptions! You think a comparison between Obamacare and the status quo favours the status quo?

Is the US government uniquely incapable amongst governments? That is what you are suggesting, I suppose.

Obamacare is not the system I would have selected (I think Medicare expansion is probably the best option). But it is one small step better than the awful, expensive system in place right now. Apparently anything else is described by Republicans as socialised medicine. Oh well. I guess the label is meant to be scary.

If you want to learn about healthcare economics, try Kenneth Arrow.

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