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Re: Entomology clarification***

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I fear you have left my conceptual space. I am constrained it seems by seeing things from a preservation of information, all information, standpoint.

When one wanders into singularities and black holes, my lack of sophistication in these matters leaves me seeing a loss of information. While I understand that the thinkers on matter and such things pay close attention to preservation of information, it being as I see it a requirement for causality based thought, of which I am an adherent. In the absence of that I feel I may as well just make things up. (there are some non-sentences there, I am a bit too exhausted to repair them)

It would seem that if gravity is e.g. a fundamental thing that affords action over a distance and has a net effect of drawing things closer, there is no reason to exclude some similar force, of which the net effect is to push things apart.

If, in our consideration of the last 14bn years or so things seem odd, it may be that our time frame is hopelessly too short. That the tip of a whip exceeds the speed of sound for a very brief moment would seem remarkable and largely inexplicable if our entire perception was confined to that millisecond or a subset of it. It would seem as if rope had this crazy asymptotic acceleration quality. in the case of the whip we are capable of a much larger time frame, the acceleration becomes very rational, the forces known, and our need to breach boundaries of preservation of information evaporate.

There is this tendency for us to observe that for every thing that is, there seems to be something equally opposed, it may be a necessary feature of existence. As the relative weightings of what is from an abacus perspective seem to highly favor matter as the greater container, that just a wee bit correlates to incomprehensible amounts of energy ... somewhere in that I am wondering if we are twisted by our time slice, that the snapping of a whip seems darn crazy from a nanosecond perspective, to come out of nowhere, that no information seems to afford it occurring, but backing off to a whole second it is simply an exception, a moment where acceleration spikes.

That, is what you call Dig Space rambling.


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Re: Entomology clarification***
By: Cactus Flower
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Tue, 08 May 12 7:03 PM
Msg. 07734 of 54959

Then the next question is, do you dare apply the same thought to the whole universe?

Do I dare and do I dare, as Mr Prufrock would say?

At one extreme, is the uncertainty principle not an assertion that is a little similar?

And at the other, why is the universe's expansion continuing to accelerate, unless perhaps there is some additional expansive force to oppose gravity?

For me, in the beginning (as it were) there must at a minimum have existed some force which bound things together and another which, when released, produced the forces of expansion. Big Bang when the tension exploded.

Dualism as a minimum.

Pure principles are against nature. They even say that a black hole releases a little bit of information.


I believe this dynamic but forceful opposition is the essential nature of everything.


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