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And another thing: Those who choose to worship,myself included, would not agree that God has put himself beyond our capacity to confirm His existence but rather that He has revealed Himself to us through His creation and through His Son and through His word. Of course if He had not chosen to reveal Himself then you would be correct that we would never be able to confirm His existence. You should not limit everyone to your own experience. I do agree with you that there was a time when science and religion were much closer, both being concerned with truth. You say that religion "lost it's purpose in understanding the world arouind us" Isn't there an inherent differece between ( here I'm speaking of the Christian faith) religion which claims to have received knowlege through revelation and science which is more of an on going search. For me, and I realize this will not sound humble, but if you think about it, it is, I've found the answer. The answer can not be found through science because science is only one part of the puzzle. I don't understand why there is a conflict. Can't we try to figure out how the universe works whether we believe it was created or it is eternal using the same methods?


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Re: lic
By: Cactus Flower
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Mon, 07 May 12 3:25 AM
Msg. 07652 of 54959

Once we are sufficiently humble, I think we will admit that we cannot make an assertion of that type. It requires a knowledge and a certainty that is outside our purview.

But if there is a god and she puts herself beyond our capacity to confirm her existence, I for one believe it is appropriate to honour that wish by putting the question aside as plainly unanswerable.

Others choose worship. In my view, that represents presumption about a putative god's wishes. Would I wish to be worshipped by an ant? No, I would want it to do anty things. Above all, I would want it to embrace its antdom and to be curious about the ant world it inhabits. I would see its appreciation of its ant world as a worthwhile reflection upon me, its maker.

Even so, curious people perform god's work, in my view. They seek to understand and wonder at the book of nature. Historically-speaking, science and religion once were much the same thing. Unfortunately, in trying to fix its truths, religion eventually lost its purpose in understanding the world around us.


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