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Re: Ratios

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
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Hi dig,

I don't think you are going to end up with a precise figure. What you can do is get an approximation by stripping out things that are clearly irrelevant.

So taxes, interest, R&D - these have no bearing.

You are trying to get close to a consistent measure of the costs of sales. Some of the costs of sales are things like shrink wrap. These vary according to volume. Some of the costs of sales are things like salaries which do not necessarily correlate with volume. The latter are listed inside S,G&A costs.

This gives you a dirty measure of the total cost side of sales. It includes some garbage which comes from things like admin costs. But admin costs tend not to be terrifically eccentric quarter over quarter.

So the cost side of your ratio may be dirty, but it is also pretty consistent.

On the sales side, you need to use a figure which isn't normalised. So the orders number is better than the accrued number. And to acknowledge the peaks created by major orders, it is best to have a sales figure both with and without them.

The ratio drops out of the comparison of sales and costs.

If you can get the numbers for sales people on a quarterly basis, you can also establish a clean number for average sales orders per person.




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Re: Ratios
By: DigSpace
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Thu, 03 May 12 7:08 PM
Msg. 07529 of 54959

It is precisely that metric that is absent from Wave reporting and absent from the CCs, companies report these things, particularly small growing companies. Its what people want to know. You lost me on how using COS would help me get there as far as dropping out a meaningful number. That a number "Sales General and Administrative" has next to it a number "Cost of Sales" seems like double counting as I thought the word sales was used in the prior column. Coming from a land of fish and birds and lacking any education these matters I am disinclined to divert the abacus to playing with values that I do not have some sort of intuitive spatial feel for. I always though cost of sales was the cost of the shrink wrap, and that SGA was sales team salaries etc. I can't see value in measuring shrink warp, and I don't know what component of admin is sales related versus e.g. RD related or financing activities related.


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