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Re: 10.5 million loss.....

By: DigSpace in ALEA | Recommend this post (0)
Sat, 17 Mar 12 3:01 AM | 119 view(s)
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my spiel:

Ok so, 2010 was $26.05m revs, $30.16 exp, loss $4.11m
2011 non-Safend revs were up $8.3m from 2011 so 2011 non-Safend revs were $34.35m.

Revs for 9 mo ending Q3 were $25.10m, so Q4 non-Safend revs were $9.25m.

That is down from $9.53m for Q3. That goes in the bad column.

The exps statements in the interim filing are absolute gibberish to me, and seem couched in EBITAS talk, which I don’t do. I could see EBITA, but tacking on the S is just plain sick.

But, as the loss is given ($10.5m) and the loss thru 9 months was $6.16m, Q4 net loss was $4.35m

So, somehow one has to pile in Safend numbers to get to the loss a loss of $4.35

I was using $1.6m for Safend revguess and $2.3m for safend expguess, but that doesn’t give a big enough loss. If you toss I nthe $1.8m in non-recurring acquisition cost you get a loss of 10.8 (too big) but close enough with either Safend bringing in more than 1.6 (doubt it) or my handing onf the added costs a bit much (my guess) … so shaving off the diff to gets to

…… drum roll

Q4 revs: $10.8
Q4 exps: $15.2m

The total loss matches up,

FY2011: revs $35.9m, exp $46.4m, loss $10.5m

yoy revgrowth +38%
QtoQ revgrowth +14%
QyoQ revgrowth +54%

Revs for Q4 were disappointing by the tune of around a million dollars (for me).


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Re: 10.5 million loss.....
By: Cactus Flower in ALEA
Sat, 17 Mar 12 2:34 AM 		Msg. 06872 of 54959

Hi doma,

Q1-3 company losses were around $5.9m so the Q4 Group loss looks to be around $4.6m.

Bear in mind that Safend's losses will be added to Wave's losses in Q4 to make group numbers.

Wave's company revenue looks to have been around $9.3m in Q4 to generate annual revenue of $34.4m for the year, with whatever Safend has contributed on top of that. So perhaps $36m for the Group's top line in 2012 and 10.7m - 11.0m for the quarter.

The sales team really isn't contributing as much as I would have expected given the increase in the numbers of staff. I was hoping for an extra million in sales. The sales team costs a lot, but it isn't generating so much. That's an old story. The question remains - will the demand emerge? And when? Why did SKS hire these people if it wasn't with the expectation of sales appearing soon?

I imagine someone else will work this out. But up to this point, iHub's righteous (if somewhat partial) policies mean that those who can figure what the numbers are don't post them there.

So who brings value to the conversation? iHub? Or the folks who post information to the board? ;-)

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