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Re: SE (Secure Element) and TEE (Trusted Execution Environment) **

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Hi awk,

It is kinda witty - you quoting the idea of combining the use of a mobile on the go and a television back at home. That was the idea I shared with you all those many moons ago - except I had a safer example. The mobile user was on a train and the example was of the instruction to download a movie to a set top box.

Yes. I get the demand side argument. The notion of the universal trust matrix has expressed that theme since I found the right number of words to articulate it: two!!! ;-)

My general principle is to try to uncover the line of progress, which was the creation of an architecture for the use, storage and exchange of valuable information. And then to figure the obstacles to its acceptance.

I don't so easily push the proprietorial interests of the suppliers to one side.

Hence, the lost decade, which tells us as eloquently as anything can that there is a great big supply side obstacle in the way.

For me, the question is, how do you navigate it? And then, how long will it take?

Right now, on one side you have the mobile phone designers seemingly interested and expressing that interest via their standards bodies (GlobalPlatform, Mobey Forum). And on the other, you have folks like the DoD expressing a need for a secure, interoperable framework.

Can these two groups square the trust circle? I think they can, but they need to push to do so. Because just waiting for the market to join the dots is an exercise in futility. The mobile service incumbents do not want to operate a bitpipe if they can help it. They want a percentage of the transaction flow, which is a more valuable prize.

So there needs must be a mandate, which implies that a body with the capacity to write one will have to be involved. Or the handset manufacturers must get much more aggressive in supplying the enterprise market direct - which in turn means the end of the subsidies in the current consumer-led model.

Meanwhile, the MNOs are running service monopolies over their networks. A nice little cash cow.

That's my opinion, for what it is worth.


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Re: SE (Secure Element) and TEE (Trusted Execution Environment) **
By: awk
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Sat, 10 Mar 12 8:03 PM
Msg. 06802 of 54959

Alea,

In my opinion "this" is very simple.

If you have 2 or more devices you would want to sync them.

You may want to start watching a movie on your phone (Device 1), which is served by Verizon. You get interrupted - the police is showing up while you were driving and watching the movie - and want to finish the movie on your TV (Device 2), connected to your multi-media PC.

I just use this example to illustrate one SIMPLE case of interoperability.

Another example is banking transactions, payments over the internet... there will undoubtedly many applications be written that allow a user to manage his devices, his accounts etc.

All this needs a fully interoperable solution. Banks will not accept a fragmented approach. Other services will not be written in a fragmented approach. It's going to be a single, globe spanning and interoperable trust infrastructure. Economics will just demand that.

Just because the phone service providers want it their way doesn't make it necessarily so...

This was my mantra 10 years ago, and still is today. I am seeing "my technical vision" come true. Handsets are about to be equipped with an MTM running in ARM's "TrustZone".

When, in 2004 - I believe - the ARM model was made public I said: "Microsoft just got handcuffed" ... and you know what? Future Microsoft OSs now require a TPM/MTM. On Windows 8 for ARM it is now a REQUIREMENT!


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