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Gun politics in the United Kingdom
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In the United Kingdom in 2009 there were 0.07 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants; for comparison, the figure for the United States was 3.0, about 40 times higher, and for Germany 0.2[1

After mass shootings in England and Scotland in the 1980s and later by people with licensed firearms, what is considered to be some of the strictest firearms legislation in the world was enacted[3][4].

Fully automatic weapons (submachine-guns, etc.) and self-loading weapons of calibre larger than .22 rimfire are totally banned, as also are all handguns (pistols and revolvers). 
Other rifles and their ammunition are permitted only for good reason. Shotgun ownership and use is controlled, and even low-power air rifles and pistols, while permitted, are controlled to some extent. A firearms certificate issued by the police is required for all weapons and ammunition except air weapons. Possession of a single bullet can lead to severe penalties.

While Scotland has had its own parliament (Holyrood) since the Scotland Act 1998, power to legislate on firearms was reserved to the UK Parliament, which led to tensions between the British and Scottish parliaments, with the Scottish government wanting to enact still stricter laws.[5]

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Re: Report: 4 hurt in Ohio high school shooting
By: Beldin
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Tue, 28 Feb 12 2:55 AM
Msg. 52179 of 65535

So, your dimwitted response is to simply, arrogantly "take all firearms away from everyone else," the vast, overwhelming majority of whom are innocent, law-abiding citizens who lawfully purchased their firearms, eh? Well, clo ... the problems with your "solution" are legion ... foremost of which is that it is formulated in an environment of total fantasy, rather than reality. Reality is: (1) you can't undo the invention of the firearm, (2) if a person wants a firearm badly enough, which means they more than probably need it to help them in the commission of a felony (i.e., not the law-abiding citizens you want to disarm), they will find a way to obtain one, (3) you cannot make this world a safe place where all potential harm can be prevented, (4) law-abiding citizens absolutely have the inalienable right to defend themselves and their families, with legally procured firearms, against others who act to do them physical harm, and (5) notwithstanding what the tyrannical little voices are constantly telling you otherwise within your perpetual, delusional stupor, you do not have the right to appoint yourself dictator and tell the rest of us what we can or cannot do with our own lawfully obtained property - the very situation of oppression that The Second Amendment was written to combat.

So, either wake up from your willing stupor and start living in the real world, or move your clueless self to a place that fits your wishful ideal, like North Korea ... everyday North Korean citizens don't have guns ... or cars, for that matter ... hell, they don't have any property to speak of at all! You should love it there.


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