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06542 Re: The USA's recovery from crisis
   Alea....i can see this is pretty pointless, you know everything about...
faul   ALEA   30 Jan 2012
1:38 PM
06540 Re: The USA's recovery from crisis
   Zecharia Sitchin.
orda   ALEA   30 Jan 2012
7:28 AM

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Re: The USA's recovery from crisis

By: Cactus Flower in ALEA
Mon, 30 Jan 12 7:07 AM
Msg. 06539 of 54959
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Hi doma,

No. That hadn't occurred to me.

I really didn't miss your point on purpose. Frankly, I am a little surprised you are serious. Is this genuinely meant to be a rational, historically-based argument? Whose thesis is it? It's quite strange. Even so, I am happy to try to understand you. While at the same time being a little concerned.

So a few questions which will help me understand your viewpoint. Please don't think they are flippant:

Which gold mines are we talking about from 100,000 years ago? I'm not aware of any but my knowledge of the early migration period is not remotely comprehensive. Are we talking homo sapiens, homo erectus, or Neanderthals here? Modern humans were in Africa and the Middle East at this point.

Which Gods are we talking about? The Sumerians and Egyptians had different ones. Or do you think there were some Gods who appeared in different guises to these ancient peoples?

Can you point to the Sumerian tablets which mention Adam or the Adam? As far as I remember things, in the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh, Enki is the first man. Perhaps you are talking about the Enuma Elish, which I've only read snippets of. In the Book of Genesis which describes the Hebrew tradition and which was influenced by Babylonian mythology, Adam is used to mean an individual, all mankind and the earth. So I'm not sure about the text you are describing.

When we're talking "monoatomic" uses of gold, do you mean they were interested in very small quantities to the exclusion of larger ones? The Egyptians had no concept of the atom as far as I know. My recollection is that the notion of the atom is derived from Greek philosophy (Democritus). But if they used gold as a form of medication, good on them for trying it out. I'm no doctor so can't vouch for its use, but I have heard of the use of silver and copper.

Or do you mean they thought what they received was very pure gold? Am I to take it on trust that they knew what they were talking about? My memory is they didn't have the techniques back then to test for small amounts of metal impurities.

If being king is God-given, therefore not being king is also God-given? Still not sure of the relevance.

You assign types of monies to different classes. Why so? I have some background in history, but I don't remember this as any definition I have encountered nor, to my knowledge, is it representative, say, of the currencies used in Ancient Greece or Rome, Byzantium, the Arab world, pagan Europe or Christendom. The English used silver pennies for transactions as early as the eighth century.

By what mechanism are the Gods controlling my mind? I thought I was just noticing that the theories of various Nobel Prize winning economists seemed to fit the facts, as published. Are there some other unpublished economic facts I should know about? I think you'd probably need them to give your theory some power.

Isn't it just as possible that the Gods have controlled your mind into thinking that you see a wisdom that is illusory, rather than that they are controlling me and everyone else?

Are you going to explain why debasement is not a flaw of your gold theory of currency? It's been highly prevalent wherever a metal coinage is employed. Indeed, your argument that bankers need more paper than a gold currency can support is a good reason to suppose a modern gold currency would soon be debased. Surely that matters to Gods who are interested in monoatomic purity.

What makes you think the banking system makes a claim on gold at all? The claim is against the value generated by the economy. To presume only one thing is valuable seems a little bizarre in the age of computing power and new forms of energy.

If you wait long enough, the sun will be extinguished. But so far, fiat currencies like the US dollar have seemed robust. What are your examples of fiat currency failure so I can think about them?

Re Tesla - don't know much about that. I thought Tesla was more of a pre-nuclear age physicist, but there are plenty of scientists who are scared by the power of plutonium, so I get the over-arching point. But plutonium is a lot more valuable than gold and might just as well be used as a source of value. As I mentioned, they used a gold bar as a doorstop in the plutonium room of Los Alamos where the nuclear bomb was invented.

I'm struggling with the logic here, doma. It really has the appearance of a kind of poorly-founded speculation. Do you have a friend whose opinion you respect, whom you can tell about these Gods and their thought control and with whom you can sense check your reasoning?