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The point is, this is basic macroeconomics. It was the economics learnt in the Great Depression. Yet we act as if this experience is irrelevant.

To say - well, wait until things normalise is to miss the point. The point is, we are dealing with the issues of an extreme market failure. Not of an economic hiccup - a typical recession.

So you do what needs to be done to help the patient recover. You don't diagnose a starving person with chicken pox. When you finally notice they don't have any spots and they don't have a temperature, you don't say - well, heck they may get chicken pox one day. You treat the deficiency which is in front of you. You supply them with the remedy known technically as food.

And you admit - thank goodness I didn't make that poor starving guy take anti-chicken pox pills. Otherwise, folks will properly say: that guy ain't no doctor.


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Re: Admitting the other side is right
By: Cactus Flower
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Tue, 25 Oct 11 8:19 PM
Msg. 06138 of 54959

And this from David Frum:

"Think of Susan Sontag as you absorb the horrifying revised estimates of the collapse of 2008 from the Commerce Department. Two years ago, Commerce estimated the decline of the US economy at -0.5% in the third quarter of 2008 and -3.8% in the fourth quarter. It now puts the damage at -3.7% and -8.9%: Great Depression territory.

Those estimates make intuitive sense as we assess the real-world effect of the crisis: the jobs lost, the homes foreclosed, the retirements shattered. When people tell me that I’ve changed my mind too much about too many things over the past four years, I can only point to the devastation wrought by this crisis and wonder: How closed must your thinking be if it isn’t affected by a disaster of such magnitude? And in fact, almost all of our thinking has been somehow affected: hence the drift of so many conservatives away from what used to be the mainstream market-oriented Washington Consensus toward Austrian economics and Ron Paul style hard-money libertarianism. The ground they and I used to occupy stands increasingly empty.

If I can’t follow where most of my friends have gone, it is because I keep hearing Susan Sontag’s question in my ears. Or rather, a revised and updated version of that question:

Imagine, if you will, someone who read only the Wall Street Journal editorial page between 2000 and 2011, and someone in the same period who read only the collected columns of Paul Krugman. Which reader would have been better informed about the realities of the current economic crisis? The answer, I think, should give us pause. Can it be that our enemies were right?"

http://www.frumforum.com/were-our-enemies-right


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