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Re: The Founding of the United States, 

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Mon, 24 Oct 11 5:09 AM | 49 view(s)
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The following are some quotes from that article that are oh so true and new to be read and thought about.

“Each man was the King of his own private property, including his physical body, and thereby only answerable to God, not government.”

“This idea of ‘ownership’ and ‘property rights’ consistent with the rule of law is the only reason why the United States became the most powerful nation on earth. In retrospect this might seem rather obvious. If you own property you will develop, improve, and maintain it and attempt to produce wealth with it. Any profit you make from your property might be channeled back into further improving your property, or spent in voluntary exchange to purchase another person's property, or perhaps saved and/or given to charity. Since wealth = money and money is backed up by things of values, then it is clearer how the United States became a super power: by the enormous amount of wealth created by the industriousness of individual American citizens. This unique opportunity to produce wealth without being harassed by government and with all property owners equal in the eyes of the law, attracted an huge influx of immigration that continues to this day.”

“For example, in theory, all of the citizens cannot vote to take the property of the richest citizen because that rich citizen is King of his own property under the Constitution. In theory, the people of a state and in turn a county can live how they wish provided they respect the basic principles of the Constitution.”

“If you pay property tax on your property do you own it or do you rent it? If your land can be seized by ‘eminent domain’ for the ‘public good’ do you really own it? If you own a business and 1/3rd of all your money goes to the Federal government then doesn’t the Federal government own a third of the business? If you own a business and your employees determine the value of their labor (unions), not you, do you own or control your own property? When the people of a state only own 10% of the total land of their state (Nevada) then do the people of that state own their state or does the Federal Government (30)? What was the point of even getting rid of the King?!? In our ignorance we have created a new King, another middle man between the common man and God, except now it has a different name: the Federal Government of the United States.”

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Now, it is said that the Federal government should be used as a tool to help the 'poor' and 'less fortunate' and to further the 'public good'. 
As author Ayn Rand wrote, "The idea that 'the public interest' supersedes private interests and rights can have but one meaning: that the interests and rights of some individuals take precedence over the interests and rights of others." (29) In a truly free society there are no provisions, at the Federal level, to help the 'poor' or 'less fortunate'. Indeed, any provisions made, at the Federal level, are legalized theft and are inherently Tyrannical. If citizens do not voluntarily donate in order to solve a crisis then the society does not believe that there is a crisis worth addressing. This is self-evident. Power given to elitists who believe they, not the citizens, see all the wrongs that need righted is a formula that, regardless of their good intentions, can only end in corruption and the abuse of power. The elitists are fighting for a return to Monarchy.”

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The Founding of the United States,
By: Zimbler0 in POPE
Mon, 24 Oct 11 3:20 AM 		Msg. 45628 of 65535

http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm

The Founding of the United States, wealth creation, and the Constitutionality of Charity

Before the United States came into being the laws of Europe were codified around what was known as ‘the Divine Rights of Kings’. That is, it was thought that the King of any given country received guidance from God and thus his word was law. The King could take anyone’s life or property by snapping his fingers because he was the law. King Henry the 8th of England killed how many of his wives? The circular argument was that God wouldn’t have put this person in charge of the country if he wasn’t meant to be there by God’s Will. Therefore the Kings used religion, often with the help of ministers, priests, and bishops, to brainwash their subjects and retain complete control of power. The pope complicated things a bit for these Tyrants, as he had an enormous amount of political power over Catholic nations – one of the reasons that led to the rise of Protestantism. German princes, and eventually, the Dutch and English, were eager to be free from the moderating tentacles of Rome in order to gain more power for themselves.

There was no freedom of religion in most of Europe. You were often heavily taxed, excluded from social circles, and sometimes persecuted and killed if you didn’t conform to the state religion. Religious authorities were appointed and monitored by the King and dismissed, imprisoned, or killed if they became too outspoken.

Thomas Paine later rightly said, "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."



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