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Re: OWS - Where The Protests Could Be Going

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we saw a good example of police remaining calm and professional despite taking a considerable amount of verbal abuse.

LOL You see the size of that Marine DE ?? He was a moose, They did stay calm, One of the few times in the OWS.I think for a change they thought about their well being, instead of jumping him. Might have been a rough time for them. There is a video where a cop punched a guy in the face, just because he looked at him wrong......I do enjoy your optimistic view on human nature!!! We are not cavemen, Yet LOL




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OWS - Where The Protests Could Be Going
By: Decomposed
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Tue, 18 Oct 11 4:30 PM
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A good editorial, and I agree with nearly all of it - EXCEPT the paragraph in red, below. The police will start shooting protestors WITH NO REASON? Nooo, I'm sure if it happens that there will be a reason. It might be one that most of us disagree with, but it will be there.

And claiming that protestors will start shooting back is so far out there as to almost be science fiction. There was very little resistance to the Nazis, and they were doing far worse things than America's police have ever been accused of. Now, the Nazis and Jews were Europeans - and conservative Americans are a far cry from Europeans. Conservative Americans probably WOULD resist. But the OWS protesters don't count many conservatives among their membership - and the comparison is therefore valid.

The biggest flaw in the editorial is the start of the highlighted paragraph. It says, "We can count on the government and police to overreact. They always do." That's complete nonsense. They SOMETIMES do, but I think it's rare. That's why the video of the woman being pepper sprayed is such a shock. We don't often see that sort of thing.

In the video Nemo posted of the shouting Marine, we saw a good example of police remaining calm and professional despite taking a considerable amount of verbal abuse. Would YOU have stayed that calm? I don't know if I would have. If you've ever watched the COPS tv show, you've seen that police are usually professional in their behavior around people who are going berserk. I don't know how they do it.

On the other hand, they know they're being watched. In my own experience, I was once pulled over by a cop who was getting increasingly riled up by my lack of reaction to his lecture about my doing a 'California stop' at a right hand turn. He was getting increasingly animated, and I was beginning to think he might actually hit me or bring me in. But I'd pulled over in front of my house, and when my wife walked out, he immediately calmed down and wrote the ticket. So I admit that there COULD be a little truth in Bob Moriarty's claim. 


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It doesn’t take long to overthrow a government. Algeria took a couple of months, Egypt took only three weeks. As of now, the Occupy Wall Street event is in its fourth week. It took three weeks of total silence for the news media before they even began to pay attention.

The Revolution probably started on September 24th as Deputy Inspector Anthony Bologna of the New York Police Department casually took out a pepper spray canister and blasts some young women already in the custody of the police. It was all caught on camera as he slithered away.

The mainstream media has yet to really come to grips with the protest. Neither Wall Street nor Washington DC has yet to come to terms with the protests that have now spread all over the country.

It’s true there is no coherent and single message coming from the protestors. All revolutions begin as an unorganized mob of people each with their own agenda. What neither Washington, nor Wall Street get is that Americans are finally waking up. Sure, lots of people were talking about the dangers of derivatives years ago and the stealing going on in Wall Street. But Americans had it pretty good and as long as the paychecks came in, everything was just fine.

Paychecks have stopped for 23.1% of Americans now unemployed; many will never again hold a well-paid job. Those jobs have been shipped overseas and today some 46 million Americans are on food stamps. You can take your pick as to what has caused this attitude adjustment on the part of Americans. An incredible 22.5% of mortgages are underwater. Do the owners of those houses really believe prices will recover or are they hanging on like a cat trying to climb a chalkboard?
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We can count on the government and police to overreact. They always do and it always makes the change far more violent. The police will start shooting protestors with no reason. Protestors will go home, pick up some of the 194 million guns in the United States and come back and start shooting cops. 

This is all very predictible and the outcome is predestined. $195 trillion dollars worth of debt exists in the world and only $150 trillion dollars worth of assets exist. We have to write down the debt and start over with an honest financial system. You cannot have honesty in government without honesty in money.

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/moriarty101711.html


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