I mean dow, Naz, and s&p. I should have been more specific DE LOL. Looking at them charts all moving about exactly the same, just didn't happen a few years ago. MY evidence to the manipulation of the markets. How cool for the scum it would be to have an ETF to move them all at once. I imagine they will come up with one soon. LOL

Realist - Everybody in America is soft, and hates conflict. The cure for this, both in politics and social life, is the same -- hardihood. Give them raw truth.