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OCU,

re: "BTW, using the above salary/net worth criteria, where does that place YOU?"

Salary-wise, I'm doing decently. Middle class.

My longstanding policy has been to not discuss my cumulative wealth. I don't see that there's anything to be gained from it, and (experience has shown) such announcements invariably get thrown back at a person as either unimpressive ... or bragging. And who's to say that it's not? This is the internet. Why should whatever I say be believed?

I also regard it as no one else's business. You made the mistake of volunteering your information - and look at all the ribbing that's resulted. (While it's tempting to think of you guys as friends, some things should probably be kept under wraps.)

I will say that, like you, I've been employed almost continually since I was very young, and that I put myself through school on my own. Now someone's probably going to come back with, 'But I bet it was a state-funded college, right???' - to which I can only *sigh* and say that it's hard to find a decent college in California that is not.

Except for an older sister who divorced and went on welfare when she was 35+, no member of my family has ever done anything to be ashamed of. No convictions, no welfare or food stamps, no aborted babies or tolerance for those who don't pull their weight. Most of us eat meat. When I was a child, my family had it hard for a time. I spent more than a year living in a 16 foot trailer with no bathroom, six occupants, and walls that would cake with ice at night from condensation off of our breath. But rent was $30/month, and we got by.

Given my fairly humble origins, I think I've done okay. Unfortunately, if I faced similar challenges today, I probably couldn't succeed. There's too much government, too many government-induced obstacles, and a government-bungled economy that has caused prices to soar.




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Re: Does he actually believe this is true and does he think that anyone else does...
By: oldCADuser
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Mon, 26 Sep 11 7:53 PM
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I would hardly call Mitt's upbringing as being "middle class" considering his father, George W. Romney, was CEO of an American automobile company, then Governor of Michigan and finally even tried running for President (but was tripped-up by a minor detail: he was born in Mexico of parents who had renounced their American citizenship).

As for my middle-class status, my father was a high-school dropout who worked his whole life in blue-collar jobs, first as a truck driver and then as a heavy equipment operator finally retiring as a regional foreman with the Michigan DNR (Department of Natural Resources). My mother was a bookkeeper. I paid for may own college education and has been fully employed ever since. And according to many people, if you go by annual salary, and if $250K is the arbitrary upper limit for a couple and still be considered 'middle-class' then I guess I still AM. However, if it's having less than a million dollars net worth, well then I guess I'm NOT.

BTW, using the above salary/net worth criteria, where does that place YOU?


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